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4. 291 320 Aug  6,1963 AUDITING COMM CYCLES 



A Freezone Bible Supporter



Here is a complete set of Level 0 Academy tapes as a

companion piece to the level 0 pack posted earlier this

year.



Much Love,



Tech Lover





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LEVEL 0 CASSETTES - CONTENTS



SHSBC Lectures - (old & new lecture numbers shown)



   Old New DAte



1. 148 162 May 24,1962 E METER DATA: INSTANT READS PART I

2. 149 163 May 24,1962 E METER DATA: INSTANT READS PART II

3. 290 319 Jul 25,1963 COMM CYCLES IN AUDITING

4. 291 320 Aug  6,1963 AUDITING COMM CYCLES 

5. 296 325 Aug 20,1963 THE ITSA LINE

6. 297 326 Aug 21,1963 THE ITSA LINE (CONT.)

7.   5 366 Feb  6,1964 THE COMMUNICATION CYCLE IN AUDITING





These are the 7 tapes that are in the modern clearsound

version of the Level 0 academy lectures.  The first two

(on the E Meter) were not in the old level zero academy

cassettes, the remaining 5 were checked against the old

tapes and omissions are marked ">".



There was also one case (marked "#") where a paragraph on

translating line plots was omitted from the old cassettes

(probably because of confidentiality) but is included in the 

new clearsound versions. (SHSBC-319)



There was also one case (SHSBC-320) where some material was

edited out of the clearsound academy version but was left

in the clearsound SHSBC version, so that even the modern

clearsound tapes do not quite match in the two versions

that are currently being sold.



Since even the old versions of these tapes have omissions,

it would be of great help if somebody could check these

transcripts against an early set of SHSBC Reels.





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AUDITING COMM CYCLES 



(alternate title: Definition of an Auditor)



SHSBC 291 renumbered 320



A lecture given on 6 August 1963



[checked against the old level 0 cassettes, omissions from the

modern clearsound academy cassette are marked with ">".  However,

one section of the omissions are included in the clearsound SHSBC

version]





Well, how are you today?



Audience: Good. Fine.



Good. Well, this is what?



Audience: 6th of August.



6 August, A.D. 13.



> We have two new students here, stand up and take a bow.

> Joan Croziak (?) and Phyllis MacMasters.

>

> We also have three new instuctors today.  Herbie's taken

> over practical, which was his earlier post, Fred's taken

> over auditing, which was his earlier post, and Jenny has 

> taken over theory which was her earlier post.



[The above is missing from both the SHSBC and academy versions

of the clearsound cassettes.  However, the following is

included in the SHSBC cassette although it is omitted from

the academy cassette]

 

> No other vast changes are envisiged beyond the curriculum.

> Now that you've caught up all of your checksheets, its time

> to change the checksheets.  This is inevitable. That mixture 

> which is not shaken stagnates, that was probably the earliest 

> Greek utterance [audience laughter].  So we don't want you to 

> get stagnated. 

> 

> The only changes which you get in curriculum and so forth

> is the change in W [the W unit of the BC] which has been

> in a state of flux anyway.  And the definition of an auditor

> is being used in W.

> 

> And I've found some new ways of milking down a tone arm,

> gettin the bestest and mostest out of that tone arm.

> Gettin that tone arm to really wiggle and wobble, that's

> very important, and this piece of technology is hand in glove -

> and it all goes back to very basic simplicities.

> 

> Every once in a while somebody says - and this lecture does

> concern this definition of an auditor - I'm not going to talk

> to you too much about the auditing cycle in this, but I am

> am going to talk to you about its particular aspects and how

> an auditor handles it.



[From this point on the academy and SHSBC clearsound versions 

match]



Every once in a while somebody says, "Well, why don't you .

. ." something or other, something or other, something or

other - that's the crux of the situation - " Why don't you

change all administrative actions? Why don't you alter all

central organizational lines?" "Why don't you ..." so

forth. "Why don't we change everything in the course?" and

so on. What they're dealing with is a problem they actually

don't see the breadth and depth of.



And that problem is this: The character of this planet and

the population hereon makes it practically impossible to do

anything with this planet. Now, I'm not taking off from a

failure point. The stress and thought and prevention and

cure and this and that which you have to go into on this

planet to get anything done and running is absolutely

fantastic.



Now, you want to ask why this is? Well, we can go into that

in a moment. But those of you who have on the backtrack an

experience of you just get some guys together and you do

something, you see - well, that's been a common experience,

and you still tend to operate in that zone and sphere of

influence. In other words, you said, "Well, it was very

easy. We just whistle up Joe, Bill and Pete, and the four

of us will go down there and fix up the signboards, and

that'll take care of that," see? And you're all set, see?



But that was yesteryear and elsewhere. And you apply that

basic feeling to this planet and you're in trouble at once.

Why? This planet is part of a larger federation - was part of

an earlier federation and passed out of its control due to

losses in war and other such things. Now, this larger

confederacy - this isn't its right name, but we have often

called it and referred to it in the past as the Marcab

Confederacy. And it has been wrongly or rightly pointed to

as one of the tail stars of the Big Dipper, which is the

capital planet of which this planet is.



Now, all this sounds very space-opera-ish and that sort of

thing, and I'm sorry for it, but I am not one to quibble

about the truth. This gets in people's hair every now and

then, and I don't see any point in lying in order to be

acceptable. It just doesn't seem to be a right way to go

about things, particularly in the realm of science. I don't

think a scientist should tell a bunch of "scientific" lies

in order to be an acceptable scientist. It doesn't seem to

me to be a sensible proceeding.



However, be that as it may, these various planets united

into a very vast civilization which has come forward up

through the last two hundred thousand years [and] is formed

out of the fragments of earlier civilizations. No I can't

tell you accurately, exactly what these blokes are up to or

where they're from, but this isn't quite germane to this

galaxy. That's the first thing you should know about it; it

isn't quite native to your track. You find a type of mental

implanting and that sort of thing going on here in the last

couple of hundred thousand years which are not native to

your earlier track.



Now, this is all very important; it's very important,

because they have terrible problem. They have the problem

of people who are native to this galaxy and aren't used to

this kind of thing, and they have the basic problem "How 

do you kill a thetan?" And that's a terrible problem to men 

who have very, very guilty consciences and blood on their 

hands - a great problem.



Probably the best way to hide your overts is to give

somebody amnesia you see (then they don't know what you've

done to them), and then tell the something else has

happened. Well, this is a dramatization of a very craven

intelligence, and that is what is going on here.



Now, the fellow who conforms to that society is in no vast

trouble. Perhaps some bloke who has a military record

against them, and that sort thing, might possibly (no

matter what he did) find himself unable to satisfactorily

conform. But the point is that their ideal is the conformist.



Now, these conformists are pretty weird, and the personnel

of this particular society is pretty scummy, to say the

least. Let's - supposing you were in the last shambling

wreckages of a red-light district: you'd have high toned

personnel, compared to the personnel which makes up the

other planet I'm talking to you about. High-toned

personnel, much higher toned than their average run. They

practice cannibalism. The stuff you get on race tracks - once

in a while some pc will run into race tracks and race-track

drivers - the Roman-circus-type entertainment, don't you see?

All that kind of stuff - that's all out of this zone and

area. We're still with that planetary system.



So, they specialize in the fellow who will conform. Now, he

ordinarily is "woiker" [worker] who is content to draw

wages and not do another single blessed thing - you know,

never really get up, improve his lot, you see, and keep on

plugging along somehow, or even slump into indigence. He's

still their choice of personnel. So this leaves the brilliant

artist, the brilliant engineer, the manager, the genius, the

criminal, the pervert, non persona grata.



And they sentence these people - the upper class (that is to

say, the brighter gent) because they can't control him and

they're afraid of him, and the lower class because it's too

vicious even for them - and they condemn the people to

perpetual amnesia. "Dead forever," they call it - the problem

of killing a thetan - and wrap them up in mothballs and ship

them down here and here we are. And that is the population

of this planet.



All right. Here's a population, then, of minimal workers;

maximal managers, artists, geniuses, criminals and

perverts. What you going to make out of this lot, huh?



Now, those are the blokes you're talking to when you say

"Add up the left-hand column of the ledger." Well, of

course, the artist says he could add up much more prettily.

The guy who actually, in his own right, was a very skilled

manager, he says he could devise a much better system - it's

true too; he probably could. If the bird is a criminal,

he's just sitting there trying figure out how he can add it

up so he can short you. And there's your zone of operation;

there is your response to 8C in trying to get an

organization running. lt's all alter-is, because the basic

crime was nonconforming. The basic crime wasn't being a

criminal; the basic crime was not conforming.



Well, actually, this group has gone ahead and made up, up

until recent times, a totally different civilization than

the civilization which planted it here. In the last ten

thousand years, they have gone on with a sort of a

decadent, kicked-in-the-head civilization that contains

automobiles, business suits, fedora hats, telephones,

spaceships - quite interesting, but a civilization which

looks an almost exact duplicate, but is worse off than the

current U.S. civilization.



Therefore, you find the current IDS. and Western

civilization rather restimulative, because it has moved up

to look like the Marcabian civilization. It's been moving

up here rather rapidly.



And now we're at a point, a very high level of

restimulation, because the automobile design, the train

design, ship design (why, they've got ships in those areas,

look just like the Queen Mary, you see?), and the fire

engines and the stuff you do with men's clothes

particularly - all of these things are the same image. So

you're going into 

> a highly restimulative area - I mean in time, -

a highly restimulative era, because we've

not had this before. See? We've been moving up through

strata of civilization, but we hadn't matched this one. 

And remember that this society at the present time looks 

dangerous; it looks very dangerous.



One of the highest crimes you could pull in that Marcabian

society, probably even today, is income tax; you make one

comma wrong and it's "dead forever." Sounds weird, doesn't

it? So, they got everybody paying income tax - awful

restimulative. Probably nothing much wrong with income tax

if it were administered as a tax, but it isn't; it's

administered as a punishment, even on this planet today.

Well, it's one of their prime punishments in the Marcabian

civilization.



All of this adds up to what? An era, going on right now, of

highly restimulative associations in the civilization, and

therefore a high-felt level of danger. People feel like

they are in danger.



Scientologists, every once in a while, hearing me talk like

this, feel even more in danger. They say, "Boy, those guys

are liable to land here tomorrow," you know?



Of course, I pull this every once in a while. Diana

suddenly appeared on my right side last night while eating

dinner (and I didn't even know she was in the room, you

see?), and just out of the corner of my eye, I saw a pair

of white spots that looked like the spats a spaceman uses,

you know? And for a split second I said, "Well, here they

are," you know?



But anyway, you should realize that the material on the

between-lives area has been much more broadly circulated

than any of our material is now, because it was laid down

the line in all directions, to the most unlikely places

(including Russia), and was contained in the book What to

Audit [A History of Man] and other materials, and that was

1951 and '52. I consider that's interesting, because let me

point out to you, that's eleven or twelve years ago and

there hasn't been a ripple. I just want to point that out

to you as an interesting point.



No, gents of this character who have a system worked out

this way would - the last thing in the world they'd do would

be blow their own game, see? All they'd have to do is land

one spaceship, and they feel like everybody would go into a

convulsion of suddenly remembering everything. And they do,

do you know? Any rumor of the men from Mars or something

like that and this planet goes into a total convulsion.



They produced Orson Welles's broadcast down in Quito (I

think it was), Ecuador, and - the radio station there, I

think a seventeen-story building or large building, or

whatever the figures were on it - and mobs tore that building

to pieces and killed seventeen people in the process.



They practically slaughtered the staff of that radio

station. In other words, they went mad.



So they know that great riots are attended by this, but a

landing in force without any equivocation that it had been

a landing of some type, or like this, would be liable to

restore everybody's memory. I think that's what they feel.

Whether this is true or not, we couldn't worry less.



But here you are; that is the point. Here you are; that is

this planet.



Every once in a while you get mad at government on this

planet, when in actual fact you're mad at the Marcabian

government. And there's a great deal of confusion. Every

once in a while somebody will get awfully furious with an

organization, very furious with an organization here on

this planet, when they have actually identified the

organization

> of an Earth government

with the Marcabian civilization.



Now, you start hitting people here with restimulative

materials of this particular type, and it restimulates a

terrific unreality; it restimulates amnesia.



I have to ask you this: How hard do you have to hit

somebody to bring about amnesia? Let's take Joe out here

and let's just see how hard do we have to hit Joe in order

to bring about amnesia on his part so he doesn't know who

he is, where he is, or anything else. How hard would we

have to hit him? Boy, that's pretty hard. It's almost

unbelievable force is used to handle a thetan and put him 

into this kind of condition.



I've been hit with some awful heavy force in this universe

without losing my mind or forgetting who I am, see? So it's

pretty heavy duress. And you restimulate that very easily

by telling people things. It gets awful unreal.



But you would find, if you gave them the actual dope, that

they would be far more in agreement with you than if you

gave them just a touch of the dope, do you see? You won't

find the citizens of this planet very far in disagreement

with what you're doing. So, therefore, you've got some kind

of an explosion going.



Well, these guys are not going to blow their own show, see.

They're not going to do anything peculiar about it. They've

probably got us all sized up, if they know anything about

us at all.



They probably have some dim idea of what we're doing, and

saying, "Oh, yes. Ho-hum." And give the devil his due: They

might even say, "Well, hey, what do you know? Those guys

might be producing a type of technology which we ourselves

desperately need." Look at that.



See, now, they know the problems exist. They couldn't have

had any decent solution, or they wouldn't have taken the

route to solution which they have. They are beings, too;

remember that.



So when we look at all this: you are (1) organizationally

handling people who are revolutionaries. They are

nonconformists. Probably the common denominator of this

planet is revolution. Probably the one thing you could

always start on this planet would be a revolution, because

it's a state of perpetual revolution. Trying to hold any

organization together of any kind whatsoever becomes almost

impossible, because everybody you're dealing with is a

nonconformist.



All right. So far goes the civilization. There are just

those few statements on the thing I thought you might find

of interest.



We're dealing now with what is an auditor?



You are handling, therefore, the roughest case that you

could find in the universe, because the rehabilitation of

the individual demands that you rehabilitate his

knowingness. If his knowingness does not increase

independently, he himself does not get well. You see,

electrical charge on the case is simply a symptom that

measures his knowingness. If he's got too much charge, his

knowingness is way down. See, that's an indirect measure of

the amount of knowingness of the individual.



And as the case moves along up the line, you get an odd

factor. You get an odd factor: This case continues

progressively to remember more. Now, one of the things the

case recovers is picture memory, remembering by pictures.

"I have a picture of, so therefore I was." See, you can

call that a picture memory and that goes from a terrific

unreality on it down to a pretty good certainty on it. So a

person at that stage of the game - an advanced stage of the

game in inspecting his own pictures - can tell the difference

between a false picture and an actual picture that has

something to do, really, with him on his track. And as his

knowingness increases, he can tell you where it belongs and

what date it has and so on. In other words, he can spot it,

bang! That's an increased knowingness. It's knowingness

that is increasing all the way along the line.



Now, from picture memory, the individual graduates up to

simply knowing.



Now, right now, you don't have to get a picture of where

you are living to know where you live. You see that? You

don't have to get a picture of your name to know what your

name is. In other words, you know this. Well, so does

knowingness increase as the case improves, and that

knowingness increases up the line to a point where you know

who you have been and where you have been, independent of

any created evidence or cross-proof. You simply know.



And that factor is a very slow factor to rise; it's not a

rapid factor. Under present auditing, yes, it is rapid, but

that is all within a framework of hundreds of hours, don't

you see?



Now, I'll give you an idea of this. For instance, I know - 

I know where I was and who I was, and know with good

certainty, who I was and where I was in the last eighty

trillion years. See, I know that; that's not much of an

argument with me. But the small details of that are liable

to go fritter-fritter here and there. You know, what did I

have for breakfast two trillion years ago? No. Nix, man.

Nah. Did I even eat, you see? That sort of thing is getting

pretty dim.



But now, over the top of that, which is an identity

knowingness - which comes before a detail knowingness, you

see; between your picture knowingness and your total

knowingness is this stage of just knowing your

identity - why, then, this detail knowingness starts to come

up and follow in on this smaller basis. And one of your

gains on it: you'll know why you were here.



You'll have tangled with it in session and that sort of

thing, and you'll have picked data out of pictures. More

and more you know why you were here. You know how you got

here. You know what you were doing ten thousand years ago,

do you see? You know what was happening 11,025 years ago,

don't you see? No pictures involved; you just know it.



And that is the restoration of the beingness of the person,

and I have given you (in a very crude way here) a cycle of

that restoration of beingness. His beingness returns to him

gradually, bit by bit. Perhaps the lowest edge of it is

something on the idea of "Maybe I possibly could know who I

was," you know? "Possibly I could know what I am doing

here, or I might even be able to know who I am." Just some

sort of a feeling like one might be able to know. And that

crawls up forward to a picture knowingness, and the

unreality of those pictures at first is fabulous. So that

anybody shows you any kind of a picture, man, any kind of a

picture, that is - must be yours, and therefore you must

have been there.



They could show you a picture of an airplane falling apart

and you at once say, "Well, I must have been in that

airplane falling apart." And later on you suddenly realize,

"Hell, I'm looking at that airplane from two miles away.

What am I doing looking at it from two miles away?" This

dawns on you after a while. Your valence problem all of a

sudden comes up; it hits you in the face, whether you're

coaxed to do it by the auditor or not. "I'm in that

airplane, see, over there, two miles away," see? "So,

therefore, I must have had an awful fall," see? And it

turns out, eventually - you'd begin to see this thing - you

say, "Hey, wait a minute. I couldn't have been in that

airplane. It was somebody I shot down; maybe it's somebody

I did this with." And then you'll finally say, "Well,

shucks. That thing is just a false picture. That isn't my

picture at all." And then whatever picture of yours is

holding it in suspense, that picture suddenly peels off the

front of it like a badly painted chromo, and pshew! and

your own picture is right behind it. And you say, "Oh,

yerp! there I was," and you're in valence. That various

cycle of recognition takes place in this picture line.



But what does it takes then, to bring about such a total

amnesia? Let's look at that: What does it take to bring

about such a total amnesia? I was riding a spaceship down

one day. Side gaskets of the tubes blew out on one side and

wiped out the engine-room crew. I went in to drag them out

just at the moment when the whole backblast of the rockets

moved frontwards through the engine room, and got hit

square in the face and managed to crawl out of the place.

The ship went into the atmosphere, melted and crashed. And

a couple of minutes or, oh, a couple of seconds after it

hit, all of its fuel sent up and hit me in the face. And I

lost my memory; I lost my memory. It took me quite a while,

sitting down very quietly, to remember where base was.



And I sat there and figured and figured and figured.

Actually, I'd sent some people back to come and pick up the

wreckage and so forth, and I was pretty foggy. And very

shortly, I snapped out of it. You know, "of course!" you know?



But just how much force is force? Well, this is the type of

scout craft which has the engines of a battle cruiser all

packed into a very tight spot, you see, and all of it

red-hot fuel. Cape Canaveral has got nothing like the

amount of force one of those things can deliver, don't you

see? And to get all of that square in your thetan puss -

twice, and get confused about where base was... Got the idea?



And how much force has it taken to destroy somebody's

memory? It's interesting. An interesting point, isn't it?

Well, that's how much force you've been subjected to. Otherwise

you wouldn't have a case. I'm not trying to make you afraid

of force. You get up to a point after a while as a

thetan - forces, morces, who cares?



I had a funny feeling the other day. I didn't quite feel up

to diving into the sun. I just didn't feel up to it; I

didn't feel it would be a healthy thing for me to do just

now. I felt weak. And I felt the interactive forces of the

sun, and I felt sort of drawn a little bit toward the sun,

and I said, "No." I sort of did a suppress and looked the

other way. I just didn't feel like taking a sun bath today.

You get the idea, you know? You feel queasy. Too much

force - too much force.



Well now, that force, of course, has to be combined with

trickery, and the trickery is mostly scrambling somebody's

dates and giving them opposite, opposing items that can

suspend in time, so that the scrambled dates will suspend

in time. You get the combinations; you know them in our

various technologies.



But let's not move away from the point into the trickery of

it; it does require the force. Force.



How much force does it take to destroy the memory of a

being? Well, that's how much force an auditor is getting

off a case. And of course you'd much rather get off

unknowingness and oddities and oddball things; you'd much

rather, because they're easier to confront than raw force.

And they're easier for the pc to confront, too.



Therefore, you say, "What have you done?"



And your pc said, "Well, I had a hostile thought about you

the other day. I thought you really should do your hair up

in back."



Oh, good - we've got a big withhold off. You get the gentle

pat-a-cake that you will sometimes see in auditing

sessions. The proper auditing response, of course, is

"Well, thank you very much," and so forth. And O/W is a bit

different than other brands of auditing. You say, "What

have you done, done, done?" And if you work very, very

hard, you can get a done in all these thinks. You see,

behind all these critical thinks is a done, is an actual

action. And you can listen to critical thinks till the cow

comes home, and you will never get anybody raised up the

line, until you've found an actual action. That is the

secret of all Sec Checking, and that is where people fall

down in Sec Checking.



Now, why do they fall down? Well, it's much easier to

confront this random little think than it is the energy

contained in a done. Do you see that?



Therefore, the mission of an auditor is the restoration of

a person's awareness, which includes his memory, his

knowingness of himself and so forth. Restoration of

awareness. What is holding down that awareness? What is

holding down this knowingness? What is sitting on this

knowingness? Well, you can say trickery and force, but it

is force used with trickery, so that an individual will get

an ARC break with force and then become the effect of force.



So you're handling, in actual fact, somebody who has lots

of ARC breaks with other beings, matter, energy, space,

time and location and form. That is in direct definition:

this person is out of comm, out of affinity and out of

reality with matter, energy, space, time, location, other

beings and form.



Now, that's the pc. So what's an auditor? So what's an

auditor? Well, an auditor has to be somebody who can

release this tremendously involved force, somebody who can

release this force from the pc. Obviously, if it's a

deranged force which is bringing about the amnesia of the

pc, then the auditor, to get a return of memory of the pc,

has to be capable of alleviating and removing that force. I

mean, that's simple. Simple. Elementary, my dear Watson.



On your E-Meter you have a tone arm. Force is removing

itself from the case as long as that tone arm is in motion.

And the wiggle-waggle of the tone arm as the pc is being

audited tells you that force is being relieved from the case.



When you start to remove force that is aberrated by some

trickery, your tone arm hangs up until the trickery is

resolved - you know, wrong date or something like that - and

your tone arm action is restored. All of these things are

all cared for in the processes and technologies of

auditing. But if that TA isn't moving, you will never make

an OT. That's just it.



Now, you oddly enough do not have to run a process,

sometimes, to get the TA moving.



Providing the TA is moving - providing the TA is moving and

you get good motion out of your tone arm - a person will

eventually go Operating Thetan. Providing you can keep the

tone arm moving, the person will eventually go Operating

Thetan. If the tone arm is not moving, the person will not

go Operating Thetan and the case may even deteriorate.



Let's just run this case on and on. The case can run an

engram, and so you keep running engrams, engrams, engrams,

engrams, and the tone arm is stuck right up here at

somewhere in the vicinity of 5.0. And there it sticks at

5.0, and you go on and audit and audit and audit; and there

it is at 5.0, and there it is at 5.0, and there it is at

5.0, and there it is at 5.0. Uh-hah -  you're never going to

make an Operating Thetan.



Now, if you run the right significances off the case and

produce tone arm action, you make an OT much quicker. But

you can get tone arm action without running the right

significances. Get this syllogism here? And you can run the

right significances without getting tone arm action.



Oh, well, you can run R3R on somebody who can't handle R3R,

and you can run all the right significances and not get

into tone arm action; you're not going to make an OT.



Now, let me go over this again now and you'll see where you

sit with regard to a tone arm. If you just keep a tone arm

moving on the pc long enough, regardless of how and what

you're auditing on the case, the case will eventually make

OT. But if you run the right significances -  if you run the

right significances - and don't get any tone arm action,

you're not going to make an OT. You got that now? This is

terribly important.



Now, it might take thousands and thousands of hours just to

randomly keep this tone arm moving on the pc. And lots of

pcs can talk forever, you know, without getting any tone

arm action. But if you could keep that TA moving, you'd

eventually get OT. So you say, then, that a moving tone arm

is slightly senior to the right significance.



Now, this is right down to bedrock on the subject of

auditing. Your job is to keep the TA moving.



Now, what's this TA doing? The TA is indicating the blowing

off of force. That is a measure of the amount of encysted

force which is leaving the case  - the amount of encysted

force leaving the case. You've got a measure of it right

there. It goes up and down, and it measures the amount of

force which is going.



Now, of course, you don't do this arithmetically or

mathematically. I imagine someday, one of these days, why,

we will. We'll set up a project that measures some guy from

scratch, right straight through to the end, shows the exact

number of motions of the TA on every process or type of

process that is run on the person, and these are all added

together. And we say there's this many hundred million ergs

of energy were released, and at the end of that line we had

an OT. But that is in essence what you're doing; you're

blowing the force, because the more force is blown off the

case the less amnesia the case has.



Does it make sense to you now?



Audience: Yes.



Force created the amnesia and you got to blow it to get rid

of the amnesia. Now, there's an interesting one-for-one.



Now, the amount of time in processing - the amount of time in

processing  - is enormously speeded up if you run the right

significances, because you're running the force off early

track, and you start to get force release which you don't

see on the meter. Now, let's not say that if the tone arm

isn't moving, it's all okay; the tone arm is also moving

when this happens.



I was sitting down in session one day, and I could feel

energy masses disintegrating clear out to Arcturus. It sure

wasn't registering on the meter. If it had, there wouldn't

have been any more of an E-Meter here; there'd have just

been charred wire. You get the idea? It was blowing off all

over the place.



Every once in a while we'll get a blowdown phenomenon.

Well, when you see that blowdown, pshew, pshew, pshew,

pshew, pshew - I' m talking about a repetitive down, see' You

call see that needle go, pshew, pshew, pshelu, pshew,

pshew; it just keeps doing it, and your tone arm is

drifting lower and lower and lower. You're watching a

remote force area blow up.



Now, if all this force blew up against the pc's face and

the pc's body, he wouldn't have any more body than a

rabbit. It's pretty hard to do research auditing and keep a

body over you. It is, because you make one little mistake

here and another mistake there and chew into a GPM

someplace else, the next thing you know, there goes this

and there goes that, and your right ear looks like a pretzel.



Anyhow, the point I'm making here is that your force

measured through the E-Meter is only a part of the force

which is blowing off the case. But if any force is blowing

off the case, you have an additional movement of the tone

arm. So if a tone arm is moving you're blowing force, and

if a tone arm is not moving you're not blowing force. And

that's all you have to know about it.



Now, there are several significances that can keep a tone

arm from moving, such as wrong time and an ARC-break

situation where the pc is out of comm and a few things like

this. But we're not now discussing the no-motion tone arm;

we're discussing a motion tone arm.



Therefore it is of great interest to an auditor, then, to

make that tone arm move. And to make it move all he can

make it move. And your most fundamental method of making a

tone arm move is not running a process. It is the basic

definition of an auditor: a listener. The basic way to let

a tone arm  - get a tone arm move is to listen, and that is

the fundamental of auditing.



Now, somebody could probably talk for a thousand years and

never say the right things, and you wouldn't get any tone

arm motion. But, similarly, how many pcs talk and get tone

arm motion from doing so and are shut up or cut off by the

auditor? Ha-ha-ho-ho-ho. Now, there is an inhibition to

blowing Clear. The auditor is not then doing his job; an

auditor is setting up a barrier to blowing mass. And you'll

find out the pc winds up at the end of the session stupider.



At the end of session, he can remember less than he could

remember at the beginning of session.



Why? Well, you've done something with the force. You have

moved it out of the bank and dumped it on the thetan's

head. Oh, it'll destimulate; it'll go out of restimulation

and all that sort of thing.



The basic definition of an auditor is: to listen. He's a

listener. His basic job is to listen, not to restimulate.



All right. Now, we stand around and we say, "Well, the

Marcabians are gonna get you tomorrow, man, and the size of

the between-lives-area screen is 180 feet by 9 feet," and

so forth. And people sit there and they go dzzzz. That's

doing what? That's charging them up, isn't it? That's

charging them up. Well, actually, they talk it over, one

with another, and usually blow the charge. It's not a grave

matter; it's not a difficult matter at all. Their

knowingness increases, and they feel all right about it and

so forth. Well, we get away with that.



Why? Because we can talk to one another about it, that's

why. The only method of blowing reactive charge is by a

communication line. There is no other method. By a

communication line. I think that's very interesting.



Here's the auditor, and he's supposed to listen. And the

only way the pc can possibly get rid of the charge is blow

it by the communication line.



Now, this doesn't mean, oddly enough, that he's blowing it

at the auditor. He isn't blowing it at the auditor. But

that he can communicate it does cause it to dissipate, and

it doesn't hit either the auditor or the pc. If the auditor

wants to get hit by the charge, he should put up a barrier

to prevent it from blowing, and the pc has an ARC break;

and the next thing you know, the auditor is hit by the

charge. You can set up a situation whereby the auditor is

hit by the charge, but only if he stops the charge.



How do you get rid of charge? Now, get what I just said.

How do you get red of charge? I didn't say how do you

handle charge, restimulate charge or anything like that:

just how do you get rid of it? Listen. That's how you get

rid of it. Listen. Elementary, my dear Watson.



Now, all therapies since time immemorial have consisted of

listening -  one way or the other.



He is a sympathetic person, and people tell their troubles

to him and very often feel a lot better.



Well, all of that is very well, and you can add that up to

a short-circuited look at auditing, but remember, this

factor entered in: Was the pc, or was the patient, talking

with tone arm action? Oh, that's the difference. Or was the

pc just nattering or was the pc lying or something? You let

a pc sit there and lie, or a patient sit there and lie for

a while, and you're going to have one of the stuckest tone

arms you ever wanted to see.



So that is the essence of the thing. An auditor is somebody

who listens with tone arm action.



That's the difference. But remember, the fundamental of all

mental activities was listening.



Prayer is based on "God will hear me." And if there's no

OTs around, who is going to hear him?



Actually, the Lama got so disgusted with this that he put

all of his praying on automatic; he puts them on a little

wheel. He can turn the wheel and it goes brrrrrrp and a

thousand prayers go up, and he's got that cared for. And

I'll bet you his tone arm, it didn't move a bit.



So an auditor has the job, and auditing consists, of

restimulating a charge (that's the auditing command

received by the pc) and then letting the pc blow the charge

that is restimulated on the return communication line.

Simple, isn't it?



> One guy whose's pc needs this advice - wake him up.

>

> [a student in the audience seems to have fallen asleep]

>

> All right, you got him.

>

> Look at that, I give you some dope along this line and

> somebody goes out, plonk [laugh].  How? Why? Has his

> auditor been listening to him?

>

> I don't think so. Couldn't be, because he's now restimulated.

> Charge, which should be going back to the auditor, is

> now appearing in the lecture.  You see this? Bang!

> You understand?



I'll draw you a picture of this thing. You needn't take a

very accurate copy of this because this is an HCOB (I think

4 August), and I'm having it squared around. But I'll 

draw you this thing. [See Lecture Chart] Here's

cause-distance-effect. That is a communication cycle. And

here is the auditor and here is the pc. The auditor utters

an auditing command, and it goes across this distance and

hits something. What's it hit - the pc? No, it hits the

reactive bank, that accumulated mass of force which the pc

is packing around that is always kicking his head in.



And we get what is known as restimulation at this point.

There we are; we get a restim. There's the living lightning.



Pow! goes the auditing command. We know this guy is very

sensitive to snakes, so the auditor says, "Recall a snake."

Pow! See? Bang! Well, now, of course if we're in some kind

of a weird situation whereby we're fighting the pc, why,

we're not restimulating the bank. We're just trying to get

the pc to fight us or something like that; we're not - it

hasn't anything to do with auditing. Just forget that. The

auditor's address actually is to the reactive bank, and he

says, "Recall a snake." Bow! Now we get a communication

line: bank-distance-effect. And here we have the pc - thetan.



And the pc says, "Hey, what do you know! There is a snake

in there." And he goes: cause-distance-effect, and that's

the end of that. This line must follow in, to take care of

the charge restimulated in your first line.



Cause-distance-effect: that's the auditing command. Bow!

There's the charge. He recalls the snake. Boom! It starts

to hit the thetan and the thetan recognizes it, knows what

it is and imparts that information on his

cause-distance-effect line, back to the auditor. And there

goes auditing. Your cycle then occurs, and the charge is

blown. And you see it reacting on the E-Meter as blown.



These are not all the communication cycles there are in an

auditing cycle, but this doesn't happen to be a lecture on

that. I'm showing the principal action of these basic lines.



Now, remember that life is always giving him commands that

restimulates things - here at E -  on the pc. This is our old

PTP and other things of that character. If you don't

believe that, put in your "since" mid ruds on the pc and

see how superior your tone arm action is. You usually get

marvelous tone arm action on "since" mid ruds unless the pc

is protesting them and wants to get on with the session.

And you get marvelous tone arm action.



Well, that's just the restimulated charge that's been

slapped at him out of this mucked-up bank that he is

gratuitously handed, in full restimulation with much added

force, in every between-lives session he's had with the

little boys elsewhere. He's trying to blow that charge. So

he comes into session, and he sometimes will sit there and

talk to you for quite a while; and the tone arm would just

move and move and move and move. He's getting rid of the

between-sessions charges. Interesting, isn't it?



You notice, after he's talked for fifteen, twenty minutes

sometimes, even somebody who has had a big upset on the

thing, you've got in your "since" mid ruds (or you haven't

gotten in your "since" mid ruds), you notice that your tone

arm. action dies down. And then suddenly, mysteriously, the

pc is in session.



What's happened? You've emptied this reservoir of

restimulation which life has handed him, restimulated in

him during the session - between sessions, you see? And

you've emptied that thing out. Now, you want to know why

your pc doesn't go into session sometimes. Well, he's

just - he's got a lot of restimulated charge that is all

ready to fall back.



Now, you've got "Is it kinder to audit somebody one hour a

week or twenty-five hours a week?" Well, of course there is

no comparison, because in the one hour you can't even get

rid of life's restimulative action in this reservoir here

at all, so you spend that one hour indifferently getting

rid of three days of the week which you're trying to cover,

don't you see? And it's a losing proposition. There's a

make-break point in auditing where a person has to be

audited enough to get rid of this charge which is being

consistently and continually restimulated. Got that?



Well now, this line here then - this lower line with the pc

at cause answering this question back to the auditor, who

in this case is at effect: then that line must have some

seniority to the upper line. The auditor

cause-distance-effect, then, is not quite as important

as - they're both terribly important - but is not quite as

important as the line, cause-distant-effect, of the pc. In

other words, between the seniority of the two lines (both

in the same order of magnitude), you'll find that the pc's

line to the auditor is slightly more important than the

auditor's line to the pc.



And in this line of cause-distance-effect to the pc - in that

line and an inspection of that line -  you will find all

auditing failures, providing any process at all that we

have has been run. In other words, if a case was loused up

by auditing, we don't inspect the process run as the first

consideration. We inspect the tone arm as the

consideration, because if you got good tone arm motion

running that process, then that bottom line - the

C-distance-E of the pc - was in.



Now, we've had processes for years. It's true, our

processes have to be very neat. They have to be very

important. They restimulate the exact amount of charge that

then blows the outer bank charge and so forth, and it's all

figured out very neatly. And on some pcs it's almost

impossible to get tone arm action; and you have to know

what stops tone arm action; you have to know all of these

various things.



But I'm now just talking about the fundamentals of

auditing; and we inspect on a failed case the C-E (the

C-distance-E) of the pc, not the process run. That's the

first thing we'd inspect: Was the auditor auditing?



Now, anybody could sit there and say, "Recall a snake,

recall a snake, recall a snake, recall a snake, recall a

snake, recall a snake."



And the pc says, "Well, I ..."



"Well, that's all right. Just don't bother with that.

Recall a snake, recall a snake," and all of a sudden the pc

is da-da, da-da-da, you know? And he's swamped.



All right. What happens in a case like that? Well, this is

very, very easy. This restimulation, when the pc puts it on

this line, goes bang! straight back at the pc. Got it? When

that line goes out, where else can it go? It's only got one

place to go, and that's the pc. So whatever you restimulate

in a pc comes home on the pc, unless it is picked up on the

reverse communication line.



Now, the penalties of this: the first symptom of the pc's

cause-distance-effect line - the first symptom of its

disappearance is a dirty needle. You can go down any line

of auditors who are busy auditing, right down any line of

auditors, and watch their meters. You don't even have to

listen to them. You just see a dirty needle, bang! this

line's out: the auditor isn't listening. The first

definition of auditor is missing.



Pc is saying, "Well, that's a snake. I ... uh ... Snake

.. uh ... Well, there was one in a zoo urm-uh-uh-urm.

I think it was a zoo - there was one in a zoo ..."



The auditor said, "Okay! Thank you! Good! Good! Thank you!

Thank you! Good! Recall a snake."



And the pc said, "Well, um-stla-stlassle hum. Yes, yes."



"Good! Good! Thank you!"



Got this nonsense? He's just backing up all the charge of

the process on the pc.



Ah, I see some of you have seen this happen. What occurs

then? Well, frankly - frankly, in time, the C with the pc at

cause-distance-effect line, in terms of time (the one here

from the pc over to the auditor) may take upwards to a

hundred times as much time in the session as the line C-E

from the auditor. Oh! It only took three seconds to ask

that question "Recall a snake." And the pc says, "Mmm " and

"Mmm. " He finally says, "Was it in a zoo? I don't know.

Zoo?" and so on. What you're seeing is identification

turning into differentiation. You're seeing force and

charge blow off. The pc is inspecting this thing. And the

tone arm moves, and it keeps moving, it keeps moving; and

the pc says, well, he doesn't know and so on. Was it a

green snake or a blue snake? He's not quite sure if it was

a green snake or a blue snake and so on. He can't recall a

snake and so forth and so on. "Snakes ... nightmare about

a snake ... but was that recalling a snake? Uh ... if ... 

I'm not quite sure on it. There was one down at the zoo when 

I was a little ... Yeah, yeah, I got one. Um ... yeah. Yeah,

it was a green snake. Oh, yeah. Yeah. There was one. Yeah.

Houston Zoo. Yeah. Got it. Got one: a green snake at

Houston Zoo, when I was eight. Ha-ha."



And you will see the cycle of the blowing force on your

meter (tone arm) accompany returning knowingness on the

part of the pc.



And the more you get that thing wobbling, the more positive

the pc sounds. You just watch that, because that in itself

is a little tiny proof of what I'm saying, is as you get

the force off, the pc's knowingness comes back. And you can

see it in one cycle.



One auditing cycle: the pc says, "Snake? My God. I'd never

.. oh, a snake, what snake? Where? What? Why? I'll ...

oh, so ... sss ... I'm ... I guess there was. See,

where do they keep ... now, I just, why, uh ... yeah ... 

I was in a zoo at one time. Yeah, there are zoos. Let's

see, now ..." so on and so on. "Zoos, and I... uh ...

must have been in a zoo sometime or another. Uh ... zoos

.. When I was a little bo ... Well, they used to take

me to a zoo when I was a little boy. Uh ... the ... uh

.. zoo ... uh ... uh ... the snake house. Oh,

yeah. There must have been one in the snake house and so

forth. Uh ... that ... yeah, they had a glass," and so forth, 

see. "Yeah. Yeah, I used to be fascinated by some cage in there. 

Let's see, I can... I got... uh... yeah. They - it was a

glass-fronted ca - they had a green snake in there. Oh, I

remember now. Yeah, I was eight. Yeah." Bing, bang! He

knows! You've pulled him up all the way through the force

that tells him he doesn't know, up to a point where he

knows. And you think it winds up with his simply seeing the

picture clearly.



No, no, he goes all the way through the picture stage,

which I have just given you. You understand?



Audience: Yes. Yeah.



Now, these two lines have names, regardless of what they

will be called on your - the comm cycles of your auditing

cycles; they have numbers on the auditing cycle - but they

have nice, colloquial names that you can remember very

easily. And this is the whatsit line, and this is the itsa

line. [See the Lecture Chart on page 123 of the Appendix.]

Now, the whatsit line is from the auditor to the pc, and

the auditor is saying "What's it?" He says, "Recall a

snake," you know? "What's it?"



And the pc says fumble, fumble, fumble, fumble. He's

looking for an itsa, see? Itsa: "Green snake, Houston Zoo."

That's the itsa. And you'll see the tone arm blow down when

he hits it, too.



So your tone arm, then, follows this pattern; your tone arm

follows this pattern. Here is your tone arm here - two tone

arms. And here is (this is already in HCOB August 4) - here's

your regular tone arm positions, and here is a nice solid

arm, and here is a dotted arm; and here's an arrow showing

the motion as up from 3.0 to 4.0, and that's a whatsit. You

got that? We haven't quite determined the low-tone-arm

case, but I think they run in reverse. But that's a

whatsit; that's the upward throw of the tone arm. That's

whatsit.



The pc says, "Let's see, snake, snake, wha ... what ...

what ... what ... sa ... Recall a snake. It's a ...

let's see ... wha ..." He's saying whatsa, whatsa,

whatsa, whatsa, whatsa, whatsa, see? And you'll see that

tone arm go up. And then he'll get a little bit of an itsa,

and you will see the tone arm go down. And your tone arm,

dotted at 4.0, falling to solid at 3.0, and that's itsa.



And you, frankly, can monitor a pc's tone arm on one

question like mad. He has an ARC break with somebody, and

he sees that there's some difference -  some similarity - or he

thinks maybe he knows somebody who looked like the person

he had an ARC break with. This would be a research test.

See, he sees -  he knows now already that there's some

similar incident earlier, that he's got this person

associated with somebody he shouldn't have it associated

with - got an identification going. And you say, "Well, what

reminded you" - well, you don't even know who that earlier

person is, see? - but "What reminded you (in the person

you had the ARC break with), now, what reminded you of the

person in the past?" See? Whatsa. And you'll see that pc's

tone arm go right up. You say, "Whatsa?" Tone arm goes up.



The pc says figure, figure, figure, figure, figure, figure,

figure, figure -  "Was it his ... was it his tie, his

shirt? His ... uh ... it's a ... uh ...uh ... uh

.. tie, shirt. Uh ... yup ... uh

.. Or is it ... there some way he held ... I think

it was the way he must've held his head."



Then you'll get an itsa. And it'll go right down: "Yes,

just think it was the way he held his head."



And you say, "Well, was there anything else?" Whatsa? And

it'll go right up. It goes right into the whatsit.



And the pc says, "Well, it could've been ... it could've

been the way ... way he ... ah ... way ... the ... he'd 

stand there the kind of clothes he was wearing.... Must've 

been the kind of clothes he was wearing." Itsa. And down 

comes the tone arm.



And you actually can sit there as an auditor and control

the motion of the tone arm. You can control it. You can say

"Whatsa?" and every time you give him a whatsa, you'll see

it goes up.



And make sure he gives you a full itsa. And then feed back

in again another fragment of the whatsa, see? And up goes

the tone arm again. And he gives you the itsa, and down

comes the tone arm again. And you can just sit there and

call your shots. (That's a research project; you normally

wouldn't handle comm like that.)



But you'll see it in running almost any process. When you

say whatsa, up she goes. And you - he says itsa, and down she

comes. You say What's it?" to the pc, and you get the up

arm. That charge is restimulated and unresolved, and that

high tone arm shows you restimulated but unresolved charge.

It's sitting there in the bullpen; it's sitting there in

the reservoir, and it's going to hit somebody or something.

And the pc plows through this charge that's been

restimulated here, and he puts it over on this line and he

says itsa. And if he's permitted to give you the itsa line,

then the charge channels right - doesn't hit the auditor; it

just disintegrates, see? And there it goes. Boom! It's

gone. You see that?



> So auditing is a repetative -

the crudest auditing cycle is the whatsit-itsa;

whatsit-itsa; whatsit-itsa. And of course it doesn't take

any time to say whatsit, and sometimes takes quite a while

to say itsa. So, consequently, this line is much more prone

to be out than the upper line - than the whatsa line.



Definition of an auditor: to listen.



Now, you're handling a case: if you knew Scientology in the

Galactic Confederation at this particular moment, man,

they'd practically put you on a throne, see? Cases! Well,

boo. You take some of the old Route 1, and you say, "All

right. Be three feet back of your doll. All right.



Be on planet A, planet B. planet A, planet E, planet A,

planet B. Got it? You're getting along fine. Planet A,

planet B. Good. OT. Thank you."



Guy would say, "Gosh. You know, this is terrific" - provided

you listened. Guy'd say, "This is terrific. I feel much

better now. I don't see why I have to be pinned in that

doll's head. I'm going around getting my sergeant's stripes

as an OT."



The situation would be very different from what you're

operating with. The character of the pc you're operating

with is operating under an enforced and

continuously-each-life-reinforced amnesia. And if the

course of the case upward is to knowingness, think of what

stands in your road auditing an Earth case. And if you were

up around in some other locales, it would be about the same

difference as right now auditing an Earth case; you would

sort of feel odd as -  how the hell do you audit an ant? Do

you see? Well, it'd be that same gap between an Earth case

and an ant, as a case of more or less a free thetan out

there in space (who doesn't have your technology) and an

Earth case. Do you see that?



So I can feel for you, trying to get wins on the cases

you're trying to get wins on, but you should recognize what

type of case you're trying to get wins on and should

recognize where your line is breaking down. Now, I have

never been able to describe this to you as succinctly as

this. I myself wasn't making much of this mistake; it

didn't call too much to my attention what it is, but it

must have been there if the original word which identifies

you, auditor, means listen - must have been there all the

time, well understood.



Now, what's the course of having that line out? What's the

source - course of it? Here's, first, (1) dirty needle; (2)

stuck TA; (3) ARC break. One, two, three - as inevitable as

nonsense from Washington. One, two, three - just like that.

If your pc has a dirty needle, a stuck tone arm is

incipient on that case. It's liable to happen any minute.

Man, you're already three-quarters of the way over the

cliff! In fact, the beginning of the piercing, dwindling

scream is about to sound. And your ARC break will follow

immediately afterwards: bypassed charge.



The most fruitful source of bypassed charge, then, is the

itsa line - just it. And that's all, that line.



That is the most fruitful source of bypassed charge, then:

Restimulate an engram, don't let the pc tell you about it;

restimulate an engram, don't let the pc tell you about it;

restimulate an engram, don't let the pc tell you about it;

restimulate an engram, don't let the pc tell you about it;

restimulate an engram, don't let the pc tell you about it.

If you haven't got an ARC break by that time, the pc must

have been dead to begin with!



Do you see that simply by filling up this reservoir full of

charge and then not putting in the itsa line - not letting

the pc tell you all about it - you're bypassing charge? This

is elementary.



That gives you a change in your auditing-training program

at Level W. At Level W we're going to teach an auditor to

be an auditor. We're going to teach them to listen before

they restimulate anything. Life restimulates quite a bit of

charge. The auditor should at least be able to handle that.



Level I - Scientology I auditing - will consist, then, mainly

of listening. You see his TA stop moving, you must have

seen earlier a DN and not noticed it. So therefore, if you

see a DN, you know that your TA motion soon is going to

cease. It may not be the exact next session; it may take

two sessions for it to really stop. Two sessions of the

same kind of treatment, see? And you know, that's going to

wind up in an ARC break.



These people who are ARC-breaky pcs are not ARC-breaky pcs;

there is no such thing. There are only auditors who don't

listen. It's very simple. It's very elementary.



I don't wish to give you too much stress on this, because

you're liable to go completely overboard and just sit there

and let your pc do nothing but talk. But the only crime

that you can commit on letting the pc talk - the only crime

you can commit - is if the pc doesn't move his tone arm by

talking. Pc is talking for a while, and you see that the

tone arm isn't moving: Well, you go on letting him talk

forever, you're foolish, because the case is getting no place.



And this question will come up: The pc is motivatoring,

motivatoring, motivatoring, nattering, nattering,

nattering. First question that was thrown at me. We had a

student here one time that only talked in motivators - didn't

talk English, talked motivators. And the question was asked

of me, "Well, what if we just let that person talk?" Well,

in the first place, she never would have gotten any TA as a

result of all this talk. And the other thing - she was

already in an ARC break! Do you follow that? You don't let

people talk when they're in an ARC break: you find what the

bypassed charge is. Because your itsa line has already gone

so far out that it won't put itself back in.



So you say "When shouldn't you let a pc talk?" No TA action

or the pc already in an ARC break. The time [thing] to do,

then, is act.



And the no TA action: Well, let's give them another

auditing command or something like that, but that normally

isn't what's wrong when you get stuck TA in that particular

fashion. If you're doing ARC breaks of some kind or another

like "Recall ARC breaks," and the pc has had an ARC break

in present time with themselves having recalled an ARC

break in the past, that sort of thing can happen, see? Or

they've suddenly bypassed and haven't answered fifteen or

twenty ARC breaks. They haven't given them to you; they

threw them all away, suppressed them. That sort of thing is

happening. Something weird has gone on in the session, and

you suddenly cease to get tone arm action. Now, the pc

could sit there and talk forever, and wouldn't get him out

of it. No, it requires the auditor to locate what bypassed

charge, what has happened here? He has two remedies for

this: he has the ARC Break Assessments and he has his big

mid ruds. He has ways of getting people out of this mess.



But that is your basic problem. We're not talking about the

ramifications of it. Let the pc talk and let him talk with

tone arm action. And let them talk as long as they want to

talk and let them talk as long as you can get tone arm

action by their talking. Where did you get so industrious?

If I could sit there for two and a half hours with the pc

telling me all about early track engrams and it's this way

and that way, and I've got a TA that is banging here from

2.5 to 4.25, back and forth and back and forth, I'm afraid

I would just sit there. And I know some of you sit and

acknowledge. Oh, no. I wouldn't shut that off. I'd just

sit. there and look intelligent. I wouldn't acknowledge a

thing - no interim acknowledgments.



Once in a while they look up and they seem brighter about

it, so I look brighter and nod. What do you want to work so

hard for? You realize that we're talking now about

Case-Level-II auditing, because that is Case-Level-II

auditing. But all you'd have to do is let the pc start

talking about his backtrack and get tone arm action and

never give an auditing [command]. Start and end sessions;

that'd be all there was to the auditing session. See, it'd

get that elementary.



Well, of course, it can get that elementary all the way

down. But the worse off they are, the more their attention

has to be directed, the more particularized the process has

to be. The way to bypass charge is not let the pc tell you.



Now, there's the basic anatomy of what you're doing, and it

should make an awful lot of sense. And if you were to teach

somebody just to listen (Scientology I, see) - you say,

"Well, you should go listen to people's problems"  - they'll

have some weird little wins. You're not even teaching them

to run an E-Meter, see; just to let somebody talk to you.

Then eventually, he'll find out that there's talk and talk.

There's the talk that moves E-Meters and the talk that

doesn't. By that time they'd be a pro. Learn to listen, and

you've got it made.



You got this all wrapped up and figured out and you see it

and you got it taped now? 



Audience: Yes. Yeah.



Well, watch those DNs and get that itsa line in.



Thank you very much.











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