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XDN-1 30 Mar 72 Expanded Dianetics

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XDN-3 7 Apr 72 Auditor Administration

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EXPANDED DIANETICS LECTURE No. 1



A lecture given to the Flag Dianetic Auditing Team on the

30 March 1972



7203C30 SO XDN-1





EXPANDED DIANETICS





All right. This is 30th of March '72 and I'm about to roll

up your misunderstood word record.



We have here the ED 149 Flag. Cheer up, it doesn't look

that bad. It isn't that bad, really, honest. Could be much

worse. They might not be getting any help at all. They

might just be thrown away in a garbage can someplace.



All right. this is, this was a Dianetic project and this is

ED 149 Flag that we're activating. And the situation was,

we have too many chronic sickies and the probable why is

Quickie Dianetics.



And the auditing stats are low. Dianetic auditors cannot

find pcs. And the ideal scene is Dianetics working to

proper pc completion on each case.



And the program with this was a leading auditor to be

appointed from Interns and that was done. And the leading

auditor to, the leading auditor to select four auditors - 

one to fly ruds and three Dianetics to make a team - by the

leading auditor. That's been done. Three - team to be fully

cleared on what really is a Dianetic completion - Director

of Personnel Enhancement.



Was that done? All right. Now four - folders of the MO's

chronic sickies list furnished by the MO to be assembled.

You did that, he had already gotten his list, which was

really what prompted the program. And five - FESes done on

their cases. Now you've done that. And six - folders brought

to LRH and LRH to gen in the team. And we're at that stage

right now.



And then we've got programs to be written for each case to

briefly repair and do real Dianetics on. All right.



Now, hand me that first folder that I had there a moment

ago. All right. Now let's take, let's take a look at this

pc and you've done a Folder Error Summary on this pc of

some kind or another here. And here's an OCA in here

someplace. This isn't the one I was looking at but that

doesn't matter.



And there's no excuse for an auditor not knowing about

OCAs, just no excuse at all. He should, of course, be able

to give one, he should be able to grade one and so forth.

But read one, that is where the auditor comes in.



Now all of this stuff they write on the back of the OCA

means nothing. That is for the graduation of somebody from

PE over to auditing or something. And they can tell them

things like this, and they're all perfectly true. But that

is not, in actual fact, what an auditor does with one of these.



The first thing an auditor does, one of these things is

look to see whether or not there is any point below the

center line. Now what in actual fact is the center line?

The American APA has a center line which is zero, above

which we get plus and below which we get minus. You've seen

those, haven't you? All right. Well, this is essentially

the same thing except the OCA has a better center graph.



Now the center line here of 00 is the critical point of the

graph. Now just a little bit into this lower gray shaded

area is not too bad. But when they go down into the white,

like a minus 62 or a minus 76 or a minus 26 or something

like that, they're said to be in the white. So there'd be

two conditions here, is below the center line, which would

mean any negative, and in the white. Now this is such a

gross thing that an auditor does that it is hardly worth

writing text books about. And people will tell you there's

much more to know about this. There isn't.



When they're in the white on the left, they're out of

valence. I don't care where on the left or at what point we

call the middle, left or right of the graph. It's when

they're low on the left, in the white on the left, they're

out of valence.

When they're low on the right, they're crazy. And I'm just

using that advisedly. This happens to be a fact. See, it's

not the usual social statement, "Oh, oh, he's crazy." See,

this guy is psychotic.



So low on the left, out of valence; low on the right,

crazy. When they're low on the left, it means the case is

too heavily charged. It is very, very, very heavily

charged. so the person cannot even come to the center of

his bank. He can't be in the middle of his bank and look at it.



He has been living for eons watching himself so that the

pictures he takes are outside. Now you can get that kind of

a condition from somebody who's exterior. But there's two

conditions of exteriorization: one is looking at oneself

and one is making pictures of oneself over there.



So, when you have that condition, you know that if you have

a low on the left, it's a very heavily charged case On

running such a case you have to be very careful only to run

things that read very well. Prefer to run secondaries.



Now when you do narrative running on such a case, C/S 54,

that's your health form and so forth, you bleed that. In

other words, you just get all you can out of that on the

subject of emotional stresses on a low on the left - deaths,

losses of brothers and sisters and dogs and cats, see? You

bleed that for emotional stress situations. Now there are

three lists and it's perfectly legitimate for you to use

these lists. All of your tools haven't been assembled in

Dianetics or the Dianetic auditor has not fully used his

tools. There's LX3 LX2 and LX1. Now because those are

listed in the Class 8 materials, the Dianetic auditor never

seems to know about them.



Now when you've bled the white form of emotional

situations, you do not now bleed the white form of painful

situations. Noooo. You get an LX3, LX2, LX1. And you take

the best reads that you can get. And you run that and they

will come snap into valence providing you've done it more

or less in that sequence. You've bled the deaths off the

case or something like that. Now you go into your LX3, LX2, 

LX1 thing. Now you're going to get some more emotions off

the case.



Now you're still running secondaries. Now secondaries will

very often drop through into engrams. All right, so they

drop through into engrams. Run the chain. But be careful

you haven't jumped chains.



All right. So much for the left side of the graph. You will

find out if you do what I've just told you it will suddenly

come up and it will be above the center line. Now when you

think of all of the difficulty people have in trying to

raise one of these graphs . . .



Now the instructions I'm giving you are simply to bleed the

case for any charge. Now if it doesn't come up above the

center line at that point, more LX3, 2,1. Try to get them

to F/Ning lists. Now maybe he's remembered a whole bunch of

horrible experiences he's had, and you might be able to do

LX3, LX2, LX1. And go back now and do a new white form and

find out you have an entirely new white form on the subject

of horrible experiences that were terribly emotional, and

losses of business and things like that.



Now what will happen at the same time is the fellow's

memory will push back. Now a person who is very low on the

left side does very, very well if he can remember back to

the time when he was 17, or, the 16-year-old will do a... he

can remember back to, she can remember back when she was

twelve or something like this. Now you start pushing back

his memory without treating this at all. His memory will

simply go back. His memory will go back to extreme youth.

Now you're not paying much attention to that, but it's just

one of the things that comes up. The fellow can remember

better. You're not even running recall processes, don't you

see.



But then you'll get somebody telling you, "You know, why

that's a funny thing. I just never remember that old house

and so forth" and start waf waf waf waffle waffle waffle.



All right, now that bleeds the case of the emotional

charge. So if you've got a low on the left, this is how you

enter the case. All right, so much for that.



You, as I say, you could probably do your LXes, you could

probably come back and bleed it and you'd finally find some

more deaths and you might even go back and find new reads

on the LXes; who knows? He might even find by this time and

volunteer there's an emotion that isn't on the LX list or

something of this sort, you see. Who knows what? That happens.



But your end phenomena, as far as you're concerned, is this

thing up above the center line on the left side. Soon as

you got that up above the center line on that side, great

three cheers, you're away because the fellow'll be in

valence. Now he'll be able to confront something.



All right, so now let's take it low on the right. Now this

person's crazy .Now when they're low on the left and low on

the right, you handle the left side. And it will come up

and then you handle the right side. When they're only low

on the right and slightly low on the left, you still handle

them from the left. In other words, it's left to right. Got it?



Now this person who's low on the right - research on this -

this person opened the door to the human mind. What the

psychiatrists and psychologist should have been doing, the

alienists and the Aesculapians and everybody <else> who worked in

this particular field - only the Aesculapian was working in

both mental and physical healing back at Greek times. This,

solving this, solved the human mind for its first time in <its>

history. That is an evil purpose. And that is all it is.



Now by evil purpose we mean the fellow has destructive

intentions. And he'd be very difficult to audit sometimes.

Sometimes he's very smooth to audit. But this case will

roller coaster. You audit him today and he's fine and

tomorrow he's complaining. You, at first, you let him out

of the session and "Oh, feeling fine, you know, I've never

felt so good in my life." and he walks right straight to

the examiner "Had an awful session." He roller coastered

just in that distance because you see, he's trying to do

himself in on all dynamics. Even though he says to do

others in, he is still doing himself in because an evil

purpose makes him restrain himself. A thetan is basically

good. So he knows he's being evil so therefore he had

better put on his brakes. So this includes never, under any

circumstances, letting himself go. And that includes the

fellow who is committing evil acts all the time. He's still

got the brakes on but can't put them on hard enough. 



> He's sort of like a car going down hill but he can't get 

> the brakes on. 



Brakes are burned out. But he's still trying just as that 

driver would be stamping his foot through the floor board, 

he's still trying. It gives him a very heavy massive bank, 

very heavy. You'll run in them black, a few masses and 

you'll run into this and invisibilities and so forth.



Now a great many people can't go into Dianetics at all.

They can't run an engram at all. That is uniformly one of

two things. It is drugs or the commands have not been

cleared. So, the second you start running one of these

fellows and he says, "Well, you know, I really don't like

Dianetics." Now you're in a cleft stick. Now what do you

do? Down on the left, down on the right, and doesn't like 

to run Dianetics. Well, now you've had it. But fortunately 

for us, why, there is a remedy to it - is

he will be able to run the drugs because that's what he's

stuck in. He'll run those automatically .



So if you run into that condition you are one more step

away from home. You've got to handle the drugs, handle the

emotions, handle the engrams, see.



Now there's some areas that can he worked on here by other

auditors and by, that is to say, by people with upper scale

auditing but let me tell you something here, all these

postulates, evil purposes and everything else are stuck in

an engram. Now there are other phenomena in the bank than

this but they're all stuck in that heavy energy. And if you

pull too many thoughts, one after the other, out of the

bank which has not been properly discharged on the left

side here of it's emotional charge, and of the right side

of it's pain and heavy energy mass - if you just kept

running, pull the postulate out , get the goals out of it,

get the this out of it, <get the that out of it,> get something 

else out of it - you're just leaving that stuff there. Actually 

it's starting to group. And if it has been misrun in any way, 

it will group.



So let's go one step further away from home now. Somebody

started a drug rundown but botched it up. Now we're way

away from home. Now if any of these cases are in this

condition, you run out the auditing. And then you run out

the drugs and then you run out the emotions, and then you

run out the pain. Now you got it? Now there are fast ways

to run out auditing by an assessment. But auditing actually

also can be run out by straight Dianetics and you will get

all of it out. Do you see where we're going here? In other

words, if you approach what you're doing here from a

totally Dianetic viewpoint and do it in the sequence that

it can be done in Dianetics, you're away.



Now there are other ways to short-circuit these other

things. That is to say, bring them up, get them done fast,

pull the evil purpose out of the bank, do this, do that, do

the other thing, you see. You understand? You can do a

tremendous job of X or XI Class dating, and locating and

blow that stuff. And you can do these other things.



The only one I know of that you get hung up on is where

rudiments are out long duration.



Now did it ever occur to you that you could run rudiments

with engrams? Did it ever occur to you? The way you'd run

an ARC break; you would simply assess affinity, reality,

communication and understanding, and you would run a time

that you did not. And what do you know - it'll run. Only this

time you'll really run it.



So if a person won't talk to you, you could actually list a

list of which way he was withholding, like false withholds,

suppressed withholds. Run it with R3R. Now you would find a

very, very interesting thing happening here. You'll find

out this would go all the way back to China and off the

planet and into outer space, see. So you don't necessarily

have to have an upper scale auditor hanging over you all

the time.



Now when you bung one up in the session, 

<it leaves you an L1C,> you can still do an L1C, 

if the guy's bunged up in the session and so forth.

If the case has to be generally repaired, there could be

something very wrong with the ease, and you can do a GF. A

GF5 can be done on the case. So there is review action can

be done for the Dianetic auditor. Somebody can do an L1C,

somebody can fly his ruds, somebody can something or other,

don't you see. Your 0 to VI. But you actually could, I'm

just trying to tell you, you could do any of these ruds

with Dianetics.



So let's go back all the way now. You could run out the

auditing and then you found out that the person was ARC

broken and had been for a long time with something, you

could even assess that. You'd have to find out if it was a

break in affinity, reality or communication or

understanding. You could even run that out and run it out

triple, and it would go back on a Dianetic chain just like

anything else. That's well within the skill of a Dianetic

auditor.



Alright. You could get the auditing out, you could get the

ruds in, you could get the charge off the case, you could

get the pain off the case and what do you know? you also could

get the evil purposes off the case, without even

asking direct for it. You'd be looking for the R/S chain.



The evil purpose guys all R/S, sooner or later. A down on

the right will R/S. And you want to list that loud and

clear when you did.



Now in L9S, in some other ways these chaps with, working

with that, actually can pull that out from underneath it

and do this, that and the other thing with it, don't you

see. They can do these things. But let's say you have a

Dianetic list - I don't want to lose you any place. You've got

a... you've done something with, either you've had a VI fly

the ruds which is perfectly all right, see, or you've had

somebody do an L1C or something like that, perfectly all

right, and maybe somebody's even prepchecked past auditing

for you, which is perfectly all right.



You've got this thing, somebody's done a GF - case has always

been resistive so they do a GF40. In other words, somebody

can do a set-up for you or somebody can do a repair for

you. But that doesn't stop you utterly just because you're

only auditing Dianetics. I'm trying to change your frame of

reference. So you shouldn't be saying, "Well nobody or we

can't find any Class VIs so . . ." You get the point of

view! In other words you're not blocked.



Now. Dianetic auditors these days are being taught to fly

ruds - perfectly legitimate. Only don't be knuckle headed and

try to get a high TA down with an ARC break. It won't come

down. If you're going to start into the Scientology side of

auditing, you had better just roll up your sleeves and

abide by it's rules. It does have rules. I've seen several

cases absolutely butchered, high TA and they try to get it

down with ARC breaks or something like that. Or they've got

a high TA that is high on some other factor, see. So your

high TA person, the high TA person is more of a puzzle to a

Scientology auditor than he is to a Dianetic auditor

because a Dianetic auditor just keeps on auditing. If he

only takes BD items will day by day by day bring the TA

down and stay within range. He doesn't even have to run

exteriorization as such. It will come down, it will come

down. And this is a little more painful to the person. It

lasts longer. You don't get as many F/Ns at the examiner

but it will come down. We've had cases right here on Flag.

Don't know why anybody was worried about them. We just ran

Dianetics and so on.



You have to be careful when their TA is high to take a BD

item. That is what you have to be careful of. Very often

you could use two way comm and get a BD item and then

phrase that as an R3R and the case will come down. This is

all, this is all possible. Another way to do it, turn it

over to a Scientology auditor and get a CS 53RRR, and they

will probably find what it is.



So there's lots of tools, the case can be repaired. It is a

question whether or not it is worth wasting your time running

ruds by Dianetics. It might be much more swift, don't you

see, to get somebody to patch it up. But remember this: it

would really be patched up if you ran it. It would really

be patched up if you ran it. It will never see the light of

day again.



Now I am just trying to give you the breath of what you can

do. Now you can take any of these FESes. Here we have, here

we have a person who is wildly down on the right-hand side.

Now that person's going to rockslam. But, how would we

approach this case? Do you see that it is slightly down on

the left? Aaah-so. So somebody sailed into this case for a

quick completion, didn't run out all the available emotion,

and so it stayed down on he left hand side. Somebody

bypassed the death of her cat or her mother or something.

You got it?



Now if you were to do a white form brand new and just

stress this loss little section on the white form, "Yeah,

well who else did you lose and what else is it to this?"

and so on and etcetera, the next thing you know why you

will get a hot one. Run it, run it just narrative and that

left hand side will go up, zoom. And then your next

procedure and so forth would be to start working on the

engram side of it.



Now possibly you think this case might need a great deal of

repair. Maybe the case does need repair. If it's indicated

the case needs repair, nobody knows how to repair-the thing

or something else, turn it over to a VI by all means.

But if you're going to dump everything you do on a VI,

you're going to feel very limited. You're going to feel

very, very limited, right? You sort of feel like you're

dependent on some line. Actually you're not.



And we get August 68, we get a white form done and we get

under "Treatment", the pc says "psychotherapy 1966", and

under interest and hobby, pc says, "psychic phenomena and

drugs," and drugs were not handled until much later. Now

you get an oddily here that you could audit at once, if it

appeared on the case and if it read. Those are always the

things - did it read?



Now she was audited all that time then over out-drugs,

out-psychic phenomena and out-psychotherapy.



The auditing itself might very well be charged. Do you see

how you could approach this?



You could simply ask her, "In auditing . . ." something or

other, something or other, something or other, list, list,

list, list, list, "did you ever feel emotionally upset in

any way" or something like that. You'll hit the emotional

bing right there and you can lift it on the left hand side.

Do I make myself clear?



All right. Now the ruds were begun with a TA high and no

F/N gotten - well, of course not.



And the GF were done in review and it reads on the pc told

a lie, and she was in a horrible state. She had an

infection of some sort. And when they did an L1B and they

got no F/N, and nothing was flown. That would be an

interesting one right there, when you look over folder

error summaries like that. She's probably had an L1B since,

now an L1C, but if you were to dig up that L1B as a VI and

just fly each one of those, they would either no longer he

there or they would F/N and the case would have a resurge.

But you would have to say, "Were you ever audited over

that?" Oh yes, the case has been audited over all those. So

the case is emotionally charged in auditing.



So looking at this now as all investigation, one of your

best chances of straightening out this case is just handle

the subject of auditing. Bleed it of its emotional content.

Run it R3R and you would find your left hand side would

rise. And you will run into all of this sort of thing.



Now it goes on and on and on and on and on here. Now this

is an awful lot of auditing. Now even Power is out. In

other words, the person has had Power with no F/N. So you

will run into this and later on somebody fooled around with

it. So Lord knows what you will run into running this, but

that's the way I'd approach the case. I would bleed the

person's auditing of all of its emotion.



Now, if you get inventive - now all I'm doing is trying to

show you how you can bleed the whole subject of Dianetics

for practically all of your auditing. And if you ever got

very inventive you could actually take an LX list and

assess it on auditing - "While you were being audited did

you have . . .", you see. "Were you", I think It would be

phrased. Do you follow? And then you just run them as

secondaries, secondaries, secondaries. So you would do

that, however, if she wouldn't, couldn't really come up

with anything, you would say, "What emotions did you have

during auditing?" All right, and then having done that, you

would run that out. You would find this case came up pretty

bright and shiny.



When you get over into your painful emotion sides, remember

that you are dealing with somebody who has been, on the

track, very destructive. And without even knowing what that

is, you will eventually run the incident where it comes

off. Now right down here at the end of the seaway, right at

the end of the breakwater down here, there was a young

fellow who had just come out to the Ship and he let go at

the top of the ladder and fell backwards about 20 feet onto

the rocks. And he hit his head, and he was pretty bad off

for a while. He's all right now.



But the thing that was holding it in place was. he had

decided to just, he decided to knock himself off just

before he let go. Therefore, his Dianetic assist is very

much in question. He was given a Dianetic assist - must be

very much in question. If anybody were to look into his

folder, nobody said, "EB". It may not even have F/Ned. But

somebody auditing him out at AOLA - he was in pretty sad

shape to audit - but somebody auditing him out at AOLA

apparently collided with this in Dianetics, and he decided

to do it. Now that was held in place against himself as a

self overt. He didn't recover. Now there's data like

this - what, where do these evil Purposes come from? They

come just before or just after an engram. AN ENGRAM.



Don't conceive the bank as something that sits out here

with the purposes over here in this column and all of the

energy and pain over in this column.



Now some future time you will be busy running some chain

and you will probably run into the ARC break with

Dianetics. You'll run into the ARC break that occurred

before that time, while you're busy running some other chain.



Now the primary mistake that an auditor in Dianetics does

that gives him quickie Dianetics is he assesses pain,

sensation, emotions and attitudes in one sentence. Now I

know it doesn't break it down materially in HCOBs but I'm

trying to teach the old dogs new tricks now, so look at

this. By doing that all in one lump sum, you could miss on

the left side and the right side, couldn't you? So during

this whole project I don't want to see you ever assess in

one sentence, "Do you have any pain, sensations, emotions

or attitudes connected with this, something or other?" No.

As a matter of fact the sentence is even slightly backwards

because the emotions come after the pain. So you do your

assessments singly. You can just go backwards on this,

you can assess for attitudes. Now we're really going

downstairs. Now this would be a person on the left hand

side, the right hand side both on the bottom of the graph.

Now the only thing you're going to get out of this person

is attitudes, not even emotions. Look at it. And then you

might get some emotions out of them. But one of the things

that a person like that complains about is he doesn't have

any emotions. So remember that each one of these pain,

sensations, emotions and attitudes has a negative and don't

sit there sometimes with a BD on "no attitude" and not

recognize that you have an incident, because I see that

perpetually on Dianetic lists.



"No emotion at all" - long fall BD. "Well, list was clean."

Zzzzzzzz. List was clean, hell. It hadn't even been

started. Do you see, so it should - so there's a negative

aspect to all these things.



Now you can get some kind of a thing like an attitude of

purposelessness or something like that. That is a perfectly

valid attitude. But God help you when you start running

that because that is going to chunk right straight along

cross to the other side fast. You can get him into more

pain and more this and more that and more something or

other than you can shake a slick at. Because of course it's

on that button - evil purpose, intention and so forth. So

when you get those recognize now that you do know about

insanity. Now I'm not telling you necessarily to avoid them

but just make sure you've got an awful good read. Make sure

you got an awful good read before you run anything with

regard to purposes - for two reasons. These reasons are very,

very big reasons. It will he imbedded in an incident either

just at the beginning of it or just after it. Now you can

pluck it out of the incident and cause the incident to sort

of fade out and so forth. But now you're getting into the

VI level of action and it's not necessarily the best level

of action, see. It's faster but it's not necessarily more

thorough.



So purposelessness or purposes and so on is something you

don't list. If the pc says it, put it on the list. Unless

it gives you one hell of a good read, leave it alone. But

just to recapitulate, to go back over what I was just

saying, now don't use this standard, pardon me, formerly

standard line. Don't, don't use this - "Do you have any

pains, somatics, emotions, (mumble) attitudes, and so on

bla dib daa daa." Don't use that. Break it clown. Break it

down. Now there's two ways you can break it down and this

is a clever way to break it down. You write down here on a

little slip or you get yourself some mimeographed slips,

and you say, this guy's got a chronic stomach ache, you

say, "About a stomach ache, what is it? Is it the pain, or

is it the emotion, it's the sensations, the attitude?"

Zoooo. Now the E-meter tells you what is real to the pc.

That is why it doesn't work as a lie detector because it

never reads on a real criminal because crime isn't real to

a real criminal so it won't read on the meter. And the only

people you ever catch with sec checking are honest people

because dishonesty is real to them, do you follow? The

reason why you only read items that read, the only, the

only items you use are those that read well. And the only

reason that you do that is to make sure that it's real to

the pc.



Now you could break down this pain, "What is this stomach

thing you're talking about. Is it the pain, is it the

sensation, is it the emotion in it, is it the attitude in

it?" Zoom! "Give me some attitudes about this". Now you

could work that person's somatic over on that same list,

reassessing and making new lists and reassessing and making

new lists and reassessing, you see, pain, sensations,

emotions, making a new list until it would just F/N all

over the place, it's gone. Do you follow?



Now, let's just abandon that portmanteau that everything in 

the same grip approach, because it is very unthorough. Now, 

here we have somebody who is, she's had a GF with no reads 

taken to F/N in July 69 and she's had a way to waste money 

with no EP.



Now you right, you know right now that you, there's, from a

Dianetic auditor's viewpoint, we have two potential chains.

There was something read on that GF. Now it's either since

been handled or it's there but there is an auditing chain

there. Now you could say, "In former auditing, did you have

any, did you have any, pain or . . ." and so on. You could

look on this GF and let's say it said, "Invalidated, long

read" and it was never taken to an F/N. "Well, let's see,

do you have anything about being invalidated?" something

like that? See? Wham! You get yourself read. It's now hot,

it's still hot. You could run it. In other words you could

bleed this FES even off an old list. But the test would be

would it read again? Now to get something to

read again you often have to say, "On this item has

anything been suppressed? On this item has anything been

invalidated?" Voom, voom. If you get a read on either

suppressed or invalidated, the item is valid. You don't

have to go back and ask the item itself because invalidated

transfers the read from the item to invalidated. You can

be, if you ask it again you would now get a read on what

the item was. But the read transfers. But you're looking

for something that moves the meter, see, it moves that

needle good, and that is within the reality of the pc. And

if it doesn't move it good, it isn't in the reality of the

person.



Now the only real thing, you got this now on assessing your

pains, emotions and so forth, right? All right, now there's

this, there is a line of country here in the running of any

pc. If the person has had a read on the list and then the

read disappears, and then you come back and call the read

again and you can t. get a read and the pc is upset, always

use the "suppress". "invalidated and sometimes the word 

"abandoned" will work.

"Has this item been abandoned?" "Oh, yes." Read. Got it?



So it's your job to make an old list like this, if you're

doing a repeat or an old Dianetic list and it didn't seem

to be handled, to make it, to make it come live again. If

you can't make it come live, skip it because it's probably

gone, it's probably this, probably that.



Now it's important to you that the most chronic, hideous,

unbelievable conditions will in actual fact surrender to

Dianetics if you know how to play this piano. This person's

practically got a hidden standard. Let's say this person

has a terrible eczema, some psoriasis or something - skin

all turned into scale. Now you can start hitting away at

this as your only target. In the first place, this person's

got failed help all over this thing in trying to do

something about it for years. So you have to approach this

with good sense. It isn't just a condition which just

occurred and you are now just going to audit it, that's not

so. Now that is comparable to an OCA. It s down on the left

and down on the right physically.



So you can shake out of that attitude for which you'll

probably get "nothing can be done about it". Good, it reads

well, R3R, run it.



Now after you knock this down for a while, this seems to be

what the pc's interest is in, after you've knocked this

thing down for a while, all of a sudden some computation

will come out of all this. You figure it out. It'll be some

big cognition come out of this of some kind or another.

Well, that is the idea which is held in place by the

energy. The energy is so ferocious he's never been able to

look at the idea before. Now you're actually taking the

energy off so the idea will come out. In Scientology they

take the idea out. You get the reversed angle.



So in other words, you've got this thing and now it gets a

little better, and the most serious thing that you can do

now at this time is to figure you have failed. Do you know

that one of those engrams that you ran in connection with

this . . . first you got off some attitudes, you got off

some emotion, "shame", and then you got off this and that

and so forth. And it seemed to run a whole bunch of

disrelated things and they somehow or another always seem

to come up with this arm. And eventually there's some sort

of an incident There where the person was scalded to death

or something - and there you've got this. You've obviously

run the incident.



This is where the person got it. You run the incident out

and the thing's still there. It's not as bad as it was it's

still there. That's what we call quickie Dianetics. Too

brushed off and so forth. You've got to work on it.



Now you just start running general things. 

<You just start running general things,> you go on and

you keep on auditing the person.



You've got to bleed this case down for things to run. I

don't care how many ways you bleed it down for things to

run. And do you know that something very remarkable will

happen. When you least expect somewhere up along the line,

a whole interior section of the engram you thought was

totally run will suddenly appear on another chain 

<and blow out> and that will be the end of his psoriasis. 

It was in there with a mental image picture but a piece of the 

picture was so submerged and out of the person's reality that 

it was never touched.



I've seen some of the most remarkable things with regard to

this. A person's goiter, a person's this, a person's that,

fabulous numbers of odds and ends, don't you see? They're

always, the medico is always talking about rushing them

right into the ambulance and getting them out or "Well,

we'll have to have an operation." "That failed", and all

that sort of thing. Well, the operation just gives you

another engram.



Now the reason he's got it will also audit out. Now you

recognize that if you continue to get the mental energy off

of the case, the ideas will then fly off. This is the reverse

mirror view of Scientology. So it's F/N, VGIs, Cog, Cog F/N,

Cog, VGIs, Cog, Cog.



Now the reason a person does not cognite is he is being run

against a no reality. And his reality might be included in

his attitudes and he might run beautifully on attitudes. He

might run beautifully on ideas. Now you couldn't imagine

somebody running engrams on ideas but the think he has

thought maybe in the last 24 hours is about as heavily as

he can get into engrams.



Basic might only lie three days ago on having thought that

he might someday be hungry.



Now as soon as you include R3R on attitudes, and that line

of country, as soon as you include that, you are actually

running R3R out on a recall basis. But you're getting what

went with it.



You're really doing recall but you're running it R3R. It's

perfectly legitimate.



Now here's the $62 question about all this. This is very

interesting to you. The failure to clear up all the words

in the commands with the pc and the failure to clear every

isolated different word in the list, including the tiny

screwball little English words of "is", "the", "from",

"such" can cause you to get reads on the items the pc

himself has given you that aren't valid. And where ever

you've seen a small fall that didn't read then, the auditor

has skipped out the idea of interest. He hasn't consulted

that and you'll find the LXs, somebody will tell you, "Oh,

well you never" - we had this here the other day - "You never

consult whether or not the pc is interested on an LX item

because it doesn't say so on the VIII tapes." You see,

because it says it on the VIII tapes, that changes the

whole business of Dianetics, huh? Quite remarkable.



So somebody's not checked interest or he's disregarded the

pc's statement of no interest and what do you know? Both of

those things have occurred in the last 48 hours. Ah, a

little bit more than that - in the last 5 days. The auditor

auditing somebody on a misunderstood word in the middle of

a phrase that was picked off a list and swearing up and

down that it was a perfectly valid item because it gave a

small fall even while it was checked. But the item wouldn't

run and the TA went right straight on up to 5 while the

auditor ground on and on and on and on. The auditor had

never bothered to say very much about interest. It was a

read on a misunderstood word. It was a misunderstood word.

It was off of the canned list. Horrible, huh?



Now we've just taken somebody who has been trained all the

way up the line and never understood any words in the

English language before she was trained. You hear me? It

wasn't that she didn't understand the words in Scientology

and Dianetics, it's she just never understood the English

language. Been speaking it all her life, been speaking it

all her life but never bothered to find out what the words

meant.



Now the most remarkable program is on the front of that

case because it says in each case "clear up each word on a

list." The person supposedly had had a drug rundown. Now

how could the person have had a Drug Rundown? The person

didn't know 5 or 6 of the words in R3R. The Dianetic C/S 1

was a brush off. This is one of these persons, "Oh, yes, I

know what all that means, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes," while

knowing none of them. Clearing the command is what is out.

So this program is quite remarkable because it says, very

carefully, I wrote it up for this one girl, and boy, did

she come up shining! Wow! From the bottom of the pit. Clear

each word on the list then assess the list.



Now I've got to tell you how to do that. You do not at any

time read them the question. You just start in on the list

and you take every word, do you see, and now if you really

want to avoid stirring up the bank and getting the

question, you clear them, the list backwards or the

questions backwards. Clear them all isolatedly. Now you

know you've already cleared that word so you don't clear it

again, you see, when it occurs someplace else. Now it's

quite a stunt and I would advise you before you go into

this very much that you get a little hit of a drill on

asking them that.



Now it is not, "Do you know what this word means?" The

graveyard is full on that one. No room for any more

corpses. You ask, "What is the definition of . . . ?" They

can't give it to you, have your stuff right to hand, look

it up. Clear a whole L3B, all 80 questions backwards, with

each of the things backwards. The pc, by the way, you'd

think would be bored stiff and all confused and so forth.

No, they get quite excited about it. But you got to have a

dictionary, you got to have a dictionary stand.



Every one of these sickies you've got has never understood

the words in the commands, nor the list to repair them. The

communication has never occurred. Now you say, it's the

auditor's TRs, it's this, it's that, it's the other thing.

Well, have all those perfect, have your metering perfect

and all the rest of that. But clear up those words and

you'll get the pcs that fail.



So the content of the bank could make it fail by being run

backwards. Run out all the pain, you got it? That can be

run backwards. And then you never got a communication. See,

your TRs are perfect, but you never got a communication.

And then the drugs. Drugs can prevent you right now from

getting the person to look at anything because they

hallucinated. Hallucination.



It means bugginess. It means seeing things that aren't

there. A good hallucination would be a lion sitting in the

middle of the floor that nobody else could see and there

has never been a lion in the middle of the floor. So it

doesn't run well as an engram.



But what really happens to them is the R6 stuff and lower

bank stuff kicks in on them while they're on drugs and

scares them to death. And then they don't ever bother to

tell even themselves about this. They had that horrible day

when .... Took this poor little innocent pot that everybody

was smoking and, oh my god, and these spiders started

leaping out of the walls and jumping all over them, you

know, something happened. Now if you ran the spiders, make

sure that it's a spider chain and not a drug chain

otherwise you'll be running what they call dub-in.

Now, dub-in is normally a heavily charged case, and if your

pcs ever see the dub-in to run it, you've already entered

the case too deeply. So your dub-in case is solved with

attitudes, emotions or sensations, then pain. A dub-in case

is so out of valence that it is amazing. So these dub-in

cases is some thing you don't need to worry about. You

don't have to have any special solution for a dub-in case.

Just run the case right side to, run the case against the

OCA or APA and you'll be all right. You got it now?



But your job basically is to bleed them down: Give me

another one of these things. Oh there's, this one, this one

has got a very sour OCA. And you'll see that this case has

been, they plucked the ideas out of the case with upper

level auditing here and they've left all the energy on the

case. So this case is going to require that auditing be

run. You see what case that is? Now somewhere in here

there's, here's, aaah, here. If you look at this OCA,

you'll see it was down on the left and is very down on the

right. Now this case has had every upper level rundown that

you can think of, practically, without ever having been set

up by Dianetics. The case has body inflammation, skin

inflammations, these are just psychosomatic illnesses. Now

your other index is your Chart of Human Evaluation of

Science of Survival.



Now if you trace out one of these characters, give me

another one, and you find them down some place on the Chart

of Human Evaluation, you've got a parallel comparison to

your OCA/APA, and the Chart of Human evaluations is more valid.



Now so this person has had their graph raised, they've had

a graph rise. Fine, but they still have psoriasis. Now what

is that all about? Well, their attitudes and ideas and so

forth have shifted but the body has been left there. Now

when they don't do a good solid beginning

preparation with Dianetics, then when they start to pull

these ideas out of the engrams, 



> they will get the ideas out of the engrams and the incidents 

> will stay there and the Bank



will tend to group. So that when a case is not thoroughly run on 

Dianetics, when you have quicky Dianetics you can expect 

a case that had very bad psychosomatic difficulties you could 

expect that case to hang fire. And that is why we don't let

anybody on Advanced Courses now with a low OCA. Do you

follow it?



So these cases that you're auditing, in many, many

instances have gone onto Advanced Courses without having

been set up. Here's one here. Now this case had what she

called a Clear cognition, and I'm sure that was the case

and etceteras. But for some reason best known to man or

beast, it left all of her attitudes in place which have

never been run out. So her attitudes are very poor indeed

and they're kicking her brains out right now. It's

interesting that this case is apparently not been

run against an OCA. I don't see any OCA.



Now I'll tell you why - ah, here's an OCA. I'll tell you why

the Chart of Attitudes is more valid. Because an OCA or an

APA can be all along the top and then in auditing sink. And

it will go down either on the left or the right. and it

will come back up again. Now a person who is terribly out

of valence can be very theetie-wheetie and this is what you

call a theetie wheetie.



It's a person with a terribly high OCA who is absolutely

for the birds. You got it? Your Chart of Attitudes will

tell you the truth. The OCA/APA or any other test will not

because the person has various characteristics which you'll

find on the Chart of Attitudes, I mean the Chart of Human

Evaluation, pardon me. They'll have communication twists

and they will have Psychosomatic illnesses and they will

have this and they will have that. And you look along here

and you will see that that case is reading at about 1.8 or

about, you know, 2.1 or 0.3.



You can imagine some pcs say, "Oh, I just adore death. Yes,

funerals, I just can't stay away from funerals. They are so

nice." You give them a message to give down at the corner

and that message never arrives, or you tell them, "Tell Joe

I thought that was nice of him." Joe comes along and hits

you in the nose. Why? Well, they said, "Bessie Ann said you

were a dirty stinker." Twisted communications and there you

are, there you are. It's a down on the right.



Now this person had a very interesting quick, fast Dianetic

run with a super cognition, had a Clear cognition and that

was that - person's very sick. Why is the person sick? I

don't know why the person's sick. Her auditing is all for

the birds. So the attitudes in auditing, the person's an

auditor also, so the attitude in auditing is of interest to

you as an auditor. There's an evil purpose sitting there,

never been hit, never been touched. Person's going to go on

and do themselves in.



Now some of these people are on OT grades and somebody's

going to tell you that it's impossible for you to run

these. So I hope that there are amongst you somebody who is

at least in the middle band of the advanced courses to run

such a case as that because you will run into some OT

phenomena trying to run it out. Is that true? You got that

pretty well taped, all right.



You ought to watch it because you could blow your own head

off. It's not that it's terribly dangerous but it's very

restimulative.



Now this poor guy is in constant ethics trouble. All he has

to do is sit down and he's immediately in ethics trouble. I

mean, he's got some kind of magnet on him that drags in

Ethics Officers like he had a chain on them and he was

running a huge car salvage winch. He roller coasters. He

went uptone. He went very uptone briefly and then he went

downtone again when life became just a little bit too

thick. I don't see his OCA, I don't see an OCA. Now this

guy had an improvement of skin, he had an improvement in

skin. You don't even need an OCA - all you had to do was look

at him. No joking about it, I mean, he's visually, visibly

psychosomatic ill. It's sitting right there. And it roller

coasters and he feels very bad indeed.



Now I can't find an OCA and it's quite remarkable that this

person has been audited without one. What the hell did they

think they were doing? That's great.



Now there's another one, you make sure you get OCAs on

these characters before you start auditing them where they

don't have them. I can't find one here. You get him an OCA.



Now once more he's probably being audited over his head in

some fashion or another. First Dianetics, single grades,

and not apparently on board and no record of them in the

tank. Well, that is very helpful. You're running into

missing folders. Doesn't matter much in your case.



MO report "Pc wants Dianetics, sores on knuckles." And he

actually has gotten up to a point where he did lose some of

his skin difficulties. But there's plenty more there to be

done.



Now you start bringing this case down on the basis of, what

is it, his attitudes or his this-a's or his that-a's or the

other thing. You start breaking that down on that type of

assessment which I gave you and you'll get something. And I

would take it first and foremost immediately straight off

in auditing, you see. And he's such an ethics magnet that

you probably would get it in ethics, see. So you could do a

little assessment or some kind or another.



Now that brings you up to how you could double or treble

assess. You can say, you can take all the areas where the

guy is, you know, like ethics, post, Flag, so on, so on, so

on. Assess that down, you see. You got no former folders,

you don't know what he's been run on. You assess that down

one way or the other and you get a nice read there and you

take your nice read and you bring it over here to pain, you

know, sensation, emotion, attitude, which one is that by

saying, "On Flag has there been pain, there's been . . ."

and so forth. Take your best read as that, get your, then

immediately draw up your R3R list - "What attitudes?" see,

"What emotions?". You bring it right across. Actually this

is the trick of restimulating a guy or putting his

attention on something so you can run it out. Pinpointing,

you don't necessarily take Flag, you see, and just run

Flag. That's narrative, see.



Now lets look at this prize. Now this guy is a prize

because he has been sick, sick, sick, sick, see. Now look

at that - way down on the left, way down twice on the right

see. He's trying to do himself in and do other people in.

But he isn't really even there to do himself in, you get

the idea? See, he's out of valence so he wouldn't be doing

himself in.



All right, here's two right here, "disgust" and

"depressed", and there's no EP on either in '69 - 

an incorrect R3R "wanting to cry" and "nervousness", no

EPs. Somebody really had a ball.



So you obviously, you would take his present time

environment then you could take his auditing - now you get

into life. See how this works. Gives you adequate stuff,

here he's obviously super-misemotional and couldn't run it.

Therefore, an attitude is an engram.



Nobody's ever noticed it. So they ask him in auditing for

an engram, pardon me, they ask him in auditing for an ARC

break and it just pulls an engram right up with it, you

see. So that you give an emotion and where people would

just normally blow the emotion and that would be that, you

know, something like that. No. He couldn't, apparently the

auditor - don't always blame the auditor - he couldn't get down

the bank on emotions in general. So that shows you the case

has been utterly missed.



Now, somewhere he'll read on a meter, be some current zone

of his life or current zone of his own activity and that

will have pains, sensations, emotions or attitudes and that

will match up and all of a sudden - boom. And then that will

read well and you do R3R on that and all of a sudden why,

he will have an interesting win.



Now some of these people, some of these people can't get an

engram to erase. Now that is a peculiar thing. That is very

peculiar. And that is too much auditing, and that is just

L3B. And that normally would be an L3B cleared. Now in

doing this project there are certain things you will do.

You're not going to clear an L3B twice. So you want to mark

it over here on your folder summary when you've done one of

these things, loud and clear, so that it can be C/Sed.



Do you see that? So what have you got here? You've got a,

there are certain things you have to do on all of these

cases because they're just, they're just missed. The

skipped gradient, Dianetics.



Now you've done a, somebody was doing L-, well here's one

that's really no cogs on ARC straightwire, F1 only.

Secondaries and engrams run in '66, both with pc surprised

at the F/N.



Pc very nervous of auditing. Ah, that's itself, it's just

the same thing I'm telling you over and over and over.

Probably present time environment "What is it? What's the

pain, sensation, emotion", run it, something like that.

"What's been your at-, who's been auditing", and get that

run. "Oh, I've had so much trouble running engrams and it's

this and that and the other thing." Well, take an L3B.



Now the L3B can be itself a rundown. It can he a rundown

all by itself. You just do L3B general and you just R3R on

doing L3B, all 80, and you just keep on doing L3B. And the

normal way you do it is to do L3B method 5, just the whole

thing. And then you take up these various, well, what you

do, I'll, you clear the L3B even though they've been

around. And then you do an L3B method 5 and then you take

the best reads off it. Now you can take up, if you want to,

and fly them, small falls but you never take up ticks or

stops. Never take up a rise.



That is the reverse, that is the guy going into

restimulation. And then you handle those things the way

you're supposed to handle it and then you assess it again

but you don't get an F/N all the way through. And you get

another read and you hit that one and you assess it all the

way through again and you get another read, and you assess

that one. And what you're working for is a method 5 that

F/Ns just from the beginning to the end.



Now the way you can cheat on this is to give the guy one

hell of a win. Now you really got quickie auditing. You

give the guy a hell of a win and he's got a persistent F/N

and so, very very hastily call off the whole list rapidly

while he's not listening to you at all, and you will get it

every time. So you don't reassess after the persistent win.

Wait until tomorrow. So, that is letting the pc have his

win. Right?



Now you can get a pc protesting just because the PC feels so

good about everything that he doesn't want to look at his

bank anymore and he's all extroverted and that sort of

thing. Well, that's the time to knock it off and find another pc.



> Once more we have somebody here who doesn't have an OCA.

> Let's see one. Down at the bottom of the barrel.



Jesus God, has this person had auditing! Wow, wow, wow! 



Now you 're right away going to ask me, "What about tripling?

What about tripling up somatics and that sort of thing?"

Actually I regard this as a little bit dicey, definitely

dicey. Now quad is perfectly OK except it's dicey.

There's something I got to mention to you. If you run quad

after a person has been run triple, you leave bypassed

charge. And the only thing about tripling up is just so

that you won't leave bypassed charge. Because if you run

triple after the person has been run single without

bringing it up, he gets bypassed charge. Got it? And he'll

feel all ARC broken and he'll want to know how or why or

anything else. Well, that's just keyed in the bypassed

charge that had been left sitting there. Quad is, been

really unnecessarily maligned. But trying to quad the guy

up after he has been singled or tripled is so difficult,

and you get so many flubs on it and so on that you could

only start a brand new person out on Dianetics on quad,

four flow, adding the zero.



But there's a sort of a lie about the zero anyhow and

there's a lie about flows anyhow because they're to a

marked degree they're all his own flows. So I do not, I do

not - I think you will probably have to bring some of these

cases up to triple. But that will be difficult because the

case isn't ready to run on that sort of thing. The way to

do it in actual fact, just thinking on my feet how to get

over this bridge because this is a tough one, I would try

to just triple it. And if the person felt ARC breaky or

that sort of thing, then go back. I mean, just run it

triple. You assess something, run it triple, and if he's

too chopped up or something like that or starts getting ARC

breaky or something like that, then go back and assess your

former single list and finish up it's triples. Don't try to

put in every one of them. Put in only those that read. You

won't find many or them that do triple up.



It's difficult for an auditor to do this, <to triple it up> you 

know, run two and three as flows and so on. And I've had a lot of

students, when I've been C/Sing, I've had a lot of trouble

with this. So it's sort or, would, might make more trouble

for the pc by trying to triple it up than just trying to

now run it triple. Do you see what I mean? So I think you

should meet the trouble after you get

to it rather than try to super-prevent the trouble. Because

we've got one guy with singles but we don't have any lists

so we'll have to do that anyway.



There is no OCA. You'll have to get an OCA out of this one.

I know that it is probably way up at the top of the graph.

Had a false TA check and list corrected and VA corrected

and Int was corrected, and a lot of things were corrected

here. Jeeesus, God, a drug rundown not complete. No single

action's been completed on this pc except recent correction

lists, Ad Course review. I feel like it's a new beginning,

oh good.



Now you want to look and see if she's got an L3B and she'd

be very suspect as having been run over misunderstood

words. Anybody's had that much trouble, they didn't

understand what the auditor was talking about anyhow. It

must be a very, very rough case. I don't see that. This

case has run up a championship number of dev-T chits.



I am absolutely amazed that some of these haven't had OCAs.

You get OCAs on these things. I won't C/S without OCAs

and you shouldn't either. You shouldn't, be running them you 

should know what you are running. Not a trace of one. That 

funny? Because Otto's been auditing this case. Otto's been 

auditing this case and he's been auditing this case without 

an OCA.



Student: (We usually put them in a Scientology folder.)



Huh?



Student: (We usually put them in a Scientology folder.)



You don't tell me that you guys have changed the folders?



Oh. Of all the people not to have an OCA, that one's for

the birds. It will fall under the same category. This

person tends to be theetie-wheetie and so forth. You'd

address it in just the same way.



And this one, oh, my god, yes. This one, oh, my god. I

would absolutely insist that this person had a Primary

Rundown before I would touch it. HCO B 30 March. Don't, for

god's sakes, go near it without a Primary Rundown, you got

it? You don't see the person's name here. Because this

person has cognitions which are very strange cognitions.

You know, about tech and things like that, you know. Almost

as bad as, "I just realized that the command has something

to do with what the pc is doing on his bank." It's far out.

And she's probably had some piece of a Primary Rundown,

see? But I would clear this case like mad.

I haven't seen this case's OCA. Here's an OCA. Oooooh.

Now, they claim they've done great here and maybe they have

done great. But look where this case was. The case has

probably had some very nice XII auditing, something like

that, see. But look at that - on the bottom on the left and

almost on the bottom on the right. And now has come up into

a different range. But your point here would be to look at

this person from the viewpoint of a psychosomatic illness

on the Chart of Human Evaluation. Person still got some or

these, still got bad eyesight, still got this, still got

that, ooh.



Now here is a bunch of folder errors. That's really corny.

Grade IV rehabbed but never run previously. I think that's

marvelous. White form done but not handled. Scatter brain

stuff. And it normally will show up. I don't see an OCA

here either so this - person - where were you - just make it.

a rule wherever you haven't got one of these OCAs and you

can't find one or it isn't recent, why - chase one up. You

merely want it for improvement.



Now I'll tell you something. If the OCA has ever been down

- expect that it's all there - always choose your lowest

OCA. The one I just showed you, down on the left, down on

the right, you treat that that way. In Dianetics, treat

that that way. Well, what they've done is pull the ideas

out of the bank rather than otherwise.



> All right! Now this character - this one here - she spends 

> a lot of her time scared half to death, see. A lot of her time 

> ill and that sort of thing - no OCA, nothing. I know what it 

> would look like. So just make it a rule to go by the OCA the 

> way it was. The worst OCA you find on the case or "The Chart 

> of Human Evaluations" as the person is now.



All right, now here's a guy. Now he's way down over there

but I dare say, that is probably, that's 31/10/71 that that

one was taken and that's all the one's they've done. Now

he's, he's not making it because of here. You see, that's a

bit low. It probably has been lower but this would be a

case of misunderstood words.



On all these cats, you understand, you've got a sort of a

rundown on all these people. You've got a problem in

misunderstood words or it would have communicated. You've

got a problem as there was engrams there and they didn't

get run. You normally, because of a chronic this long and

been audited this long and so forth, you've got a problem

that the auditing itself formed engrams. You have a problem

that their present time environment must seem very

dangerous or charged to them.



So you can almost work out as, just from the principles I'm

telling you, you can almost work out a very standard

treatment of this particular lot of pcs - all of whom are

chronically ill, see.



That, it makes a difference. So you've got a rundown of,

find out what charged in the present time environment.

Transfer that over into your PSEA list, you know. Shake it

out, run it and so forth with regard to the present time

environment and run it with regard to auditing and so on.



Now one or two or three of them will be PTS or upset, so a

PTS Rundown, the Dianetic PTS Rundown has to come up. But

don't get too enthusiastic because a PTS Rundown, doesn't

matter how PTS you think the person is or how sick you

think the person is, you don't run what the auditor thinks

the pc is. You got it? You don't quite have it. It's what

reads on the meter that is real to the pc. Now when you

say, this person's got to have a PTS Rundown, well, you'll

get away with it a lot of times don't you see? You'll get

away with it because the person's a normal running case.

But on none of these cases could you run a PTS Rundown.



That would immediately and directly violate everything I'm

telling you about these cases.



They're chronic sick people. You would be running somebody

over on the right in pain or something or something or

something on a very specialized narrative sort of rundown

that they might not have any clue of. You see what'd be

wrong with it?



When you say, "This person must have a PTS Rundown", you're

saying this person has people next to him who are

antipathetic to or antagonistic towards Scientology so

therefore he should have a PTS Rundown. Perfectly true. Is

the pc ready for the PTS Rundown? Usually not. In none of

these cases would he be. Now that's why you, the auditor,

knowing what is wrong with the pc, see, can make a hell of

a mistake. So the pc is limping around on a canes and he's

got a loss of a missing leg, and you can say right away,

"Well, the guy s got a missing leg so therefore he must

have engrams of all of that so let's just run . . ." oh,

boy. You say, "What's wrong with you?" And he says, "My

nose itches", see. That's the only thing you can get to read.



Now for instance we've got a case in Washington, Louie

Belucci, would solve up on this. He would solve up

immediately on this if you just did this same rundown to

his environment and then took and shook it down for his,

broke down your pain and so forth and ran that, and then

ran down his auditing, ran that out. Because a lot of

it has been over his head. He's got a steel shaft in his

leg so everybody, he included, comes around and keeps

presenting, presenting, presenting this as the problem,

see. And auditors either do or don't run it or something of

that sort. But it still remains a problem to him. He

actually, probably isn't having a problem with his leg at

all. He's probably having a problem with the body, see.

Maybe that leg is just his revenge on bodies in general.

Who knows what this is? It's what would read.



What's the pc worried about.



Now he isn't worried about these people who are

antagonistic to him yet you know they exist so you say,

"Well, he's got to have a PTS Rundown." No, PTS Rundown

would come around when it came up. Be alright, so that, but

what part of it can run? So don't try to wish off on the pc

something that he's not ready to get, you got it? So it's

what reads. And as long as you're there, you're safe,

you're safe, and everything's great.



BD item, oh, that'll run like a bomb. A BD item that F/Ned

when he said it, oh that's great, that's marvelous. Run it.

Because it F/Ned has nothing whatsotver to do . . That's

just there, it's keyed out for a moment, it'll key back in

ten minutes or six months, who knows. Let's immediately,

let's grab it, let's run that thing see. But is he in a

state that runs, what? What's he going to run with regard

to this? The pc, half the time, he's so afraid of running

pain, that his mind concentrates on pain. It doesn't occur

to him that there's any emotion connected with the fact.

that he hasn't got any left ear. Do you see? So the

question actually doesn't communicate.



This person has had a rough time from time to time. This

person is in ethics trouble from time to time and I imagine

there should be an OCA here. Yup! Here we are. See, down on

the left somewhat, down on the right more than somewhat,

see? Same treatment.



All right, that's good enough. I've shown you enough of

these things. You know what the general theory of it is.

Now you start running out psychiatry as a narrative item

that doesn't read well and you're going to be in trouble.

Pc's going to be in trouble. They've been practicing

psychiatry as long as there've been implanters. And he can

go right back into the bank. So that's why I give you this

other gradient scale, a gradient scale of running. Yes,

it'd be very nice. Psychiatry would have to read like mad.

It would have to be really real to this guy before you

start running something like that. Now you run all the

attitudes out of it or you run all of the emotions out of

it or all of this out of it or that out of it, or something

like that, and then after you're running it for a long

time, you run an entirely different chain and you find,

suddenly find yourself, the guy's blowing psychiatric

engrams that he didn't even know he had. Do you see what's

the difference? So you're actually, you run down, run a

little bit deeper, run a little bit heavier, more, more,

you finally get there. Got it? Now you, in running this

sort of thing, are the person who will be with the pc. So

therefore it is very difficult for a C/S to see what would

be available with the pc. So therefore your C/Ses as

auditors must take into consideration what I've been

telling you. You have to take into consideration what's

sitting there in front of you. How does this guy react? How

does he respond? Guys that are very slow and have awfully

slow comm lags and don't cognite very much and so forth,

you're running them too deep. They're just running too

deep. You better find something feather, you better find a

featherweight something for that person to run, that's all.

And you can fish him out of it.



You see, actually, if you choose the depth at which you're

running the person that fits the person, all pcs are easy

pianola cases which F/N, Cog, VGIs. See, it is you

regulating what you ask him and put his attention on. It's

what you're ... you regulate that. You don't say, "The trouble

with this fellow is . . ." and then sort of hit him with

it, see? You got it? You sort of ask him what he thinks is

the trouble with him. And then you take it at, by test, at

what depth is good. And you'll, he'll do nothing but run that.



There isn't any reason, the only reason, the only reason

under the sun, anybody for instance would be having skin

trouble, inflammation, breakouts, anything like that, any

of those things and so forth is simply engrams. They're all

engrams.



Now I'm talking to you by the way on material research clear 

up to about OT ... oh I don't know, 20.



It would be so difficult to run some of this stuff

engramically, the person would never go near it probably.

And when they're not thoroughly prepared with Dianetics and

when they don't have all of their drugs off or anything

else, they could never really come within it. So then, they

don't get much benefit out of it and it really, they can

restimulate themselves, see? But I'm telling you that all

of them are engrams. It doesn't matter what level you're

running.



You're still running Dianetics.



And I was busy researching the other day and this is one of

the things that caused this project to come about - is I was

busy researching and I looked this thing over from one end

to the other and I looked over anything I had run into on the 

back track. We're still running engrams.



And just exactly what happens?



There's one more caution I'd like to give you, is the

sequence of a person getting injured is he decides to. And

his purposes very often come after an injury. Now let me

show you how this works. He gets a motivator so he says I'm

going to ruin those people, see. The motivator, "ruin those

people", etc. But now, this thing will operate as a prior

decision and it will even operate as a prior decision to

injure himself. So when you're busy running this, when

you're busy running these things and so forth, remember not

to skimp your EB. Also don't over-do your EB. But don't

skimp it. When you start grinding, it's either EB or ES,

earlier beginning or earlier similar. Don't grind, find

that out right away. About the third or fourth time that

you've undone ABCD, something like that, boy, if you

haven't got on that basic, if you haven't got an erasure,

you've got an EB. Well don't be dilatory in asking for it.

Don't slow down in asking for it - dilatory - (slow down,

loaf). You got it?



All right. So all this really amounts to, all this really

amounts to when you look it all over from one end to the

other, all it really amounts to is bleeding the case of

every single piece of Dianetics that you can get to

read - anything that you can get to read well on the person.

That's what's important about the whole thing. And the way

to get the person winning all the way and not bogging down

all the way is uniformly to choose from the light to the

heavy. And after you've run them a while, and run pain, you

may find you have a whole new bank area.



By the way, it was very amusing on this pc who didn't

understand any words. It was interesting. I mean, this

person's very glib. They said, "Oh yes, yes." They knew

what "can't" and "is" and so on. It isn't the hard words,

you see, it's the stupid ones, you know the little ones.

And this person's glib as hell. And oh she knew all those

things but drugs hadn't run and she couldn't go back track

and it was all very difficult and all bogged down and so

on. The commands were all out but she couldn't be corrected

because the words in the correction lists were all out. But

the correction lists had been used on her and the commands

had all been used on her and it was these things which had

prevented her from going back track. She didn't even know

what she was supposed to do.



Now an auditor just with intention, can run the pc up and

down the track but imagine trying to get erasures or

something like that when the pc didn't know what erase meant

or something of this sort, see. Nonsense.



Now going back to, when I was really knocking

around Dianetics in '69, I mean, I was doing a lot of

C/Sing on the line, there was one mistake that was very

often made which I want to call to attention so that it

won't get made again, and that is the one more time through

would have brought the TA down. The picture disappeared, it

was erased but the energy was still there and that is a

rather constant error - was in those days. It took the one

more time through, and sometimes what the guys would get

would be a high TA with a person saying that it had erased.

They just missed the one time through or the EB postulate

on the beginning of the thing. The TA would have come right

on down, boom. or they wouldn't get a cognition because

they didn't run it that one more time through. They pack it

up, they chop it.



So if you re running at the level of depth which I'm

describing to you, you should get a cognition. So don't cut

it off at the end of the line. All right, so your needle

started to F/N, the pc hasn't had a cognition yet and so

forth. Don't give him "that's an F/N, that's it", so forth.



Because now he'll be sitting there with the decision he

made at that time still on the bank. That, funny things

happen about something like this. He'll come up maybe days

later and say he just had an idea that something or other,

see. Sometimes they write up, like, you get it on a Daily

Report, "I had a good session and I'm still cogniting." Oh

brother. Auditor cut the F/N see.



He's still in session.



Now be perfectly frank to ask questions along in this line.

I'll keep an idea on the thing. I won't ask, do you have

any questions right now?



Student: (Some of these people are already on rundowns.)



Are already . . . ?



Student: (On the rundowns, like the ones that Otto has

gotten and David's got one.) 



Yeah, alright, so let them finish the rundown. You don't need 

them all at once. It's a matter of scheduling. It's all right. Good. 

I don't say they won't make it, but I won't say they will, not 

the people who've been around this long. You see, because

they're still pulling this trick of pulling the idea out of the

bank, getting the person to change his mind, you know,

click, click.



Some of your OT III, OT phenomena and so forth, will get in

your road but it isn't, you needn't pay too much attention

to it. You needn't pay too much attention to it. It'll

handle anyhow. So the guy 's clear and he doesn't have any

more engrams and the body seems to be putting engrams. Run

'em, see.



All right. Any other questions?



Student: (Just one. In one of the cases, she's in the

middle of the Clearing Course).



One of these in the middle of the Clearing Course, that's

in a No Interference Area. Never should have gotten onto

the Clearing Course. Must have come aboard, right? Student:

(Oh, she's been aboard for a while but she never have been

on the Clearing Course.) Oh, never should have been on the

Clearing Course. That's some, that was a gross error, gross

error. She been on it for some time?



Student: (She been auditing?)



Another student: (Yeah, she's been soloing for quite a while.)



Ah, it's too bad, it's too bad. You're gonna mess 'em up.

That's bum. There is a way you could handle it. If she

isn't coming through and she isn't finishing up the

Clearing Course, she could run out her auditing. That is,

that is feasible, don't try to run out anything else, and

get her back on the Clearing Course. It's about all you

could do. You could try to run, you maybe could run

environment and auditing. You wouldn't dare go any deeper.

Just the way I told you, you see, an assessment of the

environment, what read, assessment of pain, sensation,

emotions and attitudes and what those read, in auditing.

You run the environment that way and then take auditing the

same way. You could run auditor, auditing, you know, the

old VIII list.



You look into the VIII materials and so forth. There's a

whole list of, the standard one -Dianetics.



Scientology, auditors, auditing. You know, that list. You

can go down that list and instead of using it as a

prepcheck just use it just as a detector list of what in

auditing to hit. Perfectly OK.



I heard the other day these were all confidential. Actually

there's only a few things in VIII that are confidential.

It's those that apply to the OT levels. That's confidential

just to keep from knocking people's heads off.



All right. Any other questions? OK. Now I want to be very

close on this line so who's going to do this C/Sing? We

haven't decided who's going to do this C/Sing. It isn't on

this, is it? 



Student: Was going to be David (Meyers)



Huh?



Student: (David Meyers)



Well, he would have to check out very heavily, yeah, "Such

is to be C/Sed with LRH as senior C/S". That might or might

not occur. That, there is a bug here. I haven't in

actually, the least aversion to C/Sing. That's something

I'm perfectly happy to do and the probability is that the

output of three or four Dianetic auditors, see, takes about

as long to C/S as it does to eat dinner. I mean, there's

nothing much to that, if the auditors are doing a good job.

If the auditors are doing a good job, piece of cake. If the

auditors are not doing a smooth, standard job, are running

into trouble of one kind or another, it's rough. That's

very rough C/Sing, can take you quite a while.



So I'll do the C/Sing on this perfectly alright with me. In

spite of the fact that my own hats are kind of pushed off

but I've got this sort of cooled off a bit, crossing my

fingers. Getting the ESTO system is working and that's

going in better. And I'm suddenly finding out that there

were certain camouflaged holes on the line so I'm getting

those adjusted and there were certain missings. When we, we

came off momentarily just because of the ESTO system, we

came off the org, Product/Org Officer System, and when the

Org Officers were forgotten - and by the way, they came, they

went off before the ESTO system came in. Boy, didn't that

throw the cat amongst the pigeons because it leaves a

Product Officer busy getting a hold of all of his programs.

He can't run them down, it can't be done.



As a result, the missing Org Officers on this ship are

being made up by me. There're several Org Officers. I don't

mind displacing two or three hundred people but sometimes

it gets a little bit thick - when I can't also wear my own

hats, that is.



So I will C/S this line but "cases to be lined up" and so

forth, "the D of P, Dianetics HCC", now you've got some D

of P people, and so on. "The program's to be written for

each case to briefly repair and do real Dianetics on." You

got that one? All right. Well, that one you can get busy on

and when it gets down here to the C/Sing when you've got

one of these cases fully programmed and so forth, send it

up to me, I'll give you an OK and send it on down. All right?



My C/Sing for you sometimes has the disadvantage that I'm

not on deck instantly available on something like that but

the way to get around that is to don't get in that much

trouble.



All right. Thank you very much.



Students: (Thank you sir.)



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